1952 Bowman Stan Musial PSA 10 on eBay :o

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Batpig

Funny, if someone had posted that thing raw on here asking for opinions, I'd have said fake without thinking twice.

Why Jeff?? Too perfect?? it doesn't have any of the telltale signs of being a fake,.

[ullmandds]

wow...Stan looks "pack fresh!" you could cut your steak with those corners!

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

wow...Stan looks "pack fresh!" you could cut your steak with those corners!

LOL...If you do, you aren't getting $10k for it anymore.

[toledo_mudhen]

Unbelievable - Just WOW

[T205 GB]

Amazing card! I have my doubts on this card being unaltered

[chalupacollects]

Sweet but they don't have it labeled HE!

[PiratesWS1979]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

Amazing card! I have my doubts on this card being unaltered

Beautiful card, but I have never had or seen one w/o one or both sides rough cut.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

Beautiful card, but I have never had or seen one w/o one or both sides rough cut.

Just checked my lowly 7 and yeah there is a bit of a rough cut on the right side.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

Beautiful card, but I have never had or seen one w/o one or both sides rough cut.

Glad I am not the only one that was seeing that. There is no paper or fiber pull anywhere either.

[Snapolit1]

Not HE. Not interested.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

wow...Stan looks "pack fresh!" you could cut your steak with those corners!

Oops. Sorry, thought I was in the prewar section. Pardon my canines

[sycks22]

It's not certified high end, I'll pass

[barrysloate]

One of the great mysteries of the hobby is why some Mint cards get 9's and some get 10's. All of them are basically the same, so some other factor is involved in the decision.

[Batpig]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Why Jeff?? Too perfect?? it doesn't have any of the telltale signs of being a fake,.

Exactly. Would have just assumed fake due to centering and corners before looking closer.

[orly57]

The owner of my local card shop bought like 100 sets of 1986 Topps Update. He sent psa 100 EACH of the Canseco, Bonds, and Bo Jacksons. Mind you, these cards were all in a sealed set until the moment he sent them. Not one card received a PSA 10. Now tell me how a 60 year old card, which for about 30 of those years didn't have much financial value at all, can be pulled out of a pack of gum by some kid, stored god knows how, and remain a 10. I'm not sure, but I don't think they had nice holders for those cards in the 50's and 60's. It's truly amazing. Having have said all that, I just don't see how that card is worth 5-figures more than Peter's 7 (yes, I saw the right border). It is truly insane.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I have long suspected there are politics involved in 10s, at least at the very expensive level.

[Peter_Spaeth]

One seller, 17,000+ PSA 10s.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...sa+10&_sacat=0

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

One seller, 17,000+ PSA 10s.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...sa+10&_sacat=0

His 71 Seaver is no even close to a 10. 7 at best! A lot of 7-9 but nothing a true ten

[ullmandds]

hand cut 10's...hostess 10's...he definitely has friends in high places!!!

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

One seller, 17,000+ PSA 10s.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...sa+10&_sacat=0

And the most expensive card is a PSA 10 hand cut 1985 box bottom? hmmm...

[ocjack]

Did anyone else notice the uniform in the lower lefthand corner of the cards are slightly different? One shows a little "white" below the red band, the other shows no "white." Pictures cropped differently on the plate?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

One seller, 17,000+ PSA 10s.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...sa+10&_sacat=0

Four fake corners gets preferential treatment? The hell you say...

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have long suspected there are politics involved in 10s, at least at the very expensive level.

This. It is a rigged game.

[GasHouseGang]

I'm just glad to finally see Musial get some respect. Still not Mantle money, but not bad!

[orly57]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I'm just glad to finally see Musial get some respect. Still not Mantle money, but not bad!

I'm not sure Musial is getting respect here; a PSA FLIP is getting the respect here. That's what I think Pete was referring to when he said it was stupid. I agree that we should not attack other collectors for buying whatever they want, but (Pete correct me if I'm wrong here) I think he was referring to the practice of paying insane amounts for a flip. If you shoved Peter's psa 7 in that 10 holder, the guy still would have bought it for 28k. Thats the Problem. Pete isn't mocking fellow CARD collectors; he's addressing the logic of collecting FLIPS.

I think there is a fine line between insulting fellow collectors and having an educated discussion on a baseball card forum about how wise it is to spend multiple thousands of dollars on a card because of the holder it is in (see the black swamp find thread). Use of the word "stupid" may cross that line, but that's Pete's opinion. Part of the purpose of our forum is to share opinions. I would bet the buyer has a Musial registry and needed the 10. Good for him. He's got the money for it and he needs it to improve his registry. Nothing wrong with that. Problem is that we know that card could be broken out, resubmitted, and get a 9. Then we must ask "is the CARD worth 28k?" At the end of the day, if high grade Musials is what that collector collects, then God bless him. He chose a hell of a player. But do not be mistaken. A PSA 10 holder got the respect here, not the Hall of Famer the card depicts.