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[commishbob]

Originally Posted by peter_spaeth

so a friend of mine in out west bought and paid for a lot in candiman's ebay auction that ended last night. You know, the auctions where the cards are with daniel's friend in little rock, arkansas who is helping him out. Or so daniel said in response to my question about why ebay shows the cards there. But the funniest thing is the tracking.

April 2, 2018, 8:59 pm
arrived at usps regional origin facility
montgomery al distribution center
your item arrived at our montgomery al distribution center origin facility on april 2, 2018 at 8:59 pm. The item is currently in transit to the destination.

April 2, 2018, 7:59 pm
accepted at usps regional facility
montgomery al distribution center

for context, daniel's post from earlier in the thread.

"the location is little rock, ar because we have a friend that lives there that is selling our unsold/unpaid lots and excess inventory or lower grade inventory that's not high quality enough to put on the website. We don't have time to sell on ebay and run an auction house at the same time. He's getting 10% of the sales price of every item that sells. It's a win for both of us. Is there a problem with us doing that too?"

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[Batpig]

Notice how many of the lies he followed up with a question? That's common among someone who is lying since the person lying is trying to get you to focus on the question they're asking rather than the BS in their answer. The funny thing is, it's not as effective in print since everyone has time to evaluate the response and sift through the BS. It's interesting because this leads me to believe he is very used to lying in person as well.

Some examples...

"There are MANY eBay sellers who don't accept PayPal. If you have your own internet merchant account you don't have to accept PayPal on eBay. Getting your own merchant account is a long process which is why most people just give in and accept PayPal. We already have a merchant account for Candiman Auctions so why pay PayPal a higher fee? Isn't it smart business to save as much on expenses as possible when running a business?"

"I know you are dying to know what happened with the famous e-check so here's what actually happened. The e-check didn't bounce. We placed a stop payment on it with our bank when we found out that the owners of that company are apparently sharing our personal information without our permission. We won't do business with a company that is willing to hand out their customers personal information like that without their permission. Would you?"

"the location is little rock, ar because we have a friend that lives there that is selling our unsold/unpaid lots and excess inventory or lower grade inventory that's not high quality enough to put on the website. We don't have time to sell on ebay and run an auction house at the same time. He's getting 10% of the sales price of every item that sells. It's a win for both of us. Is there a problem with us doing that too?"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Interestingly, the shipping label shows as being created in Houston, TX which means if I understand how the USPS software works that he must have a USPS account showing that as his return address.

[frankbmd]

Expected Delivery by
Friday
6 April 2018 by
8:00pm
Status
In-Transit

April 2, 2018 at 9:00 pm

Arrived at USPS Regional Origin Facility

MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENTER


Note: my initial tracking verifying label printing also suggested Houston.


Imagine that, my recent "Little Rock" purchase from alt Candiman has also landed in Montgomery.

Candiman, candiman ----- Pants on Fire

[Peter_Spaeth]

Forgive a brief interruption from John Prine/Bonnie Raitt

Make me an angel, that flies from Montgomery.

Now back to eschewing skullduggery.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Forgive a brief interruption from John Prine/Bonnie Raitt

Make me an angel, that flies from Montgomery.

Now back to eschewing skullduggery.

i'm getting Mets, not Angels.

congrats on your runner up loss

my cigar is lit.

[Batpig]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Interestingly, the shipping label shows as being created in Houston, TX which means if I understand how the USPS software works that he must have a USPS account showing that as his return address.

Would it show like that if you simply changed the ship from zip code? I know you're able to do that when shipping - I do it frequently shipping from a different zip than where I live, but I often forget to switch it back and forth. The USPS apparently doesn't care that much according to my local P.O. What I'm wondering is if he's using that to his advantage by changing his ship from address to a different zone to save a bit of money on shipping.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Batpig

Would it show like that if you simply changed the ship from zip code? I know you're able to do that when shipping - I do it frequently shipping from a different zip than where I live, but I often forget to switch it back and forth. The USPS apparently doesn't care that much according to my local P.O. What I'm wondering is if he's using that to his advantage by changing his ship from address to a different zone to save a bit of money on shipping.

I really don't know. Tertiary issue anyhow. But I doubt Daniel would try to cheat the USPS, that wouldn't be doing things right.

[Wite3]

Wonder when he will come on "one last time" and threaten to sue everyone...that is usually how this works, right? Post, Lie, say you are done, come on again, threaten to sue everyone, and then get banned?

Joshua

[Batpig]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I really don't know. Tertiary issue anyhow. But I doubt Daniel would try to cheat the USPS, that wouldn't be doing things right.

I agree. I bet that's what he's doing though. On Ebay, there's the address for the shipper, but there's a separate "ship from" zip code if you're shipping from a zip that's different than your shipping address. I doubt the USPS polices this much. Not that this is a huge issue, but it's pretty funny that a guy in Alabama has his friend in Arkansas shipping stuff from Texas for him.

[mantlefan]

Thanks, Peter. Now Candiman has taken his ball and gone home.

[PiratesWS1979]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I really don't know. Tertiary issue anyhow. But I doubt Daniel would try to cheat the USPS, that wouldn't be doing things right.

I've had returns like this before. The seller changes the address before a return is requested so the eBay generated label will show the new address. Then it is changed back and the card is delivered to the "wrong address". Since it was eBay generated, their buyer protection will pay so the seller has the card, the money and free to scam again....this is also working with all counterfeits on eBay.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

I've had returns like this before. The seller changes the address before a return is requested so the eBay generated label will show the new address. Then it is changed back and the card is delivered to the "wrong address". Since it was eBay generated, their buyer protection will pay so the seller has the card, the money and free to scam again....this is also working with all counterfeits on eBay.

I hadn't thought of that.


I had thought that the items being sold don't have to be shipped to the seller. Most of us wouldn't since not having the item in hand while selling isn't a good practice. But if you trust someone to ship when they need to, it's doable. Like if I listed something for a family member in another state but they kept it and shipped when it sold.

Not that that's what's going on here.

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

I've had returns like this before. The seller changes the address before a return is requested so the eBay generated label will show the new address. Then it is changed back and the card is delivered to the "wrong address". Since it was eBay generated, their buyer protection will pay so the seller has the card, the money and free to scam again....this is also working with all counterfeits on eBay.

eBay would have record of the seller changing the address. All the buyer would have to do is call eBay and ask them to verify that it happened.
James