PWCC Certified High End

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by CrackaJackKid

Referring to the JJs I would classify one as very rough and the other as a nice looking example but not high end.

That's certainly fair; it just seems a case of preferred language. The evolving jargon has become, "that's a high-end 3," for example. I have also heard a "strong 2," etc. All saying the same thing.

What PWCC has done is take the terminology that evolved among us all and monetize it— though I have some friends who would say weaponize, lol

[irv]

Originally Posted by MattyC

That's certainly fair; it just seems a case of preferred language. The evolving jargon has become, "that's a high-end 3," for example. I have also heard a "strong 2," etc. All saying the same thing.

What PWCC has done is take the terminology that evolved among us all and monetize it— though I have some friends who would say weaponize, lol

This^

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MattyC

That's certainly fair; it just seems a case of preferred language. The evolving jargon has become, "that's a high-end 3," for example. I have also heard a "strong 2," etc. All saying the same thing.

What PWCC has done is take the terminology that evolved among us all and monetize it— though I have some friends who would say weaponize, lol

It's stupid though. With a large scan anyone can see for himself whether the card is high end for the grade. Brent's say-so doesn't add anything.

[frankbmd]

In my laundry room HE stands for “high efficiency”.
In the morgue HE stands for “hepatic encephalopathy”.
In the chemistry lab HE stands for “helium”.

Therefore in the baseball card world, HE means

“The Card was soaked by a drunk seeking to elevate the grade of the card unsuccessfully.”

Q E D.

[barrysloate]

At every grade level there are cards that exhibit nice eye appeal, and others that look kind of crummy. So there is nothing wrong with stating that a card with great visuals is high end for the grade.

The problem is that so many dealers say that about too many cards. How often do you see the words "this should have gotten a higher grade" or "this looks better than a 3." So some discretion is needed.

[Rookiemonster]

Maybe we need grades within grades. Like a psa 1 that is borderline authentic grade. Need to be called a psa 1 - then go up from there psa 1+ psa 1 gem.
This might also bring a end to the grading a card above a mint 9. Just call it gem mint 9 .

[uniship]

I once submitted a PSA 8 Yaz rookie to PWCC. It was NICE. Coincidentally, they had another psa 8 yaz rookie in the same auction - and that one was labeled HE. Based on the scans and what I knew about mine in person, I thought mine was better, but whatever.

Anyway, in the end the bidders apparently thought mine was nicer too as my example (the "non HE" auction) sold for about $100 more than the HE example that ended around the exact same time.

[Frank A]

The other day I saw a card on ebay listed as a high grade Authentic. Had to be a joke right?

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

At every grade level there are cards that exhibit nice eye appeal, and others that look kind of crummy. So there is nothing wrong with stating that a card with great visuals is high end for the grade.

Well said.