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Old 03-31-2018, 02:36 PM
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Now I'm sure it's just a coincidence that there were so many non payers.

I'll stand by my previous statement in the old thread that everyone deserves a chance and I was going to keep an open mind. Now that that's over with, I'm glad I didn't bid in the first auction and won't be bidding in any others.
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Now I'm sure it's just a coincidence that there were so many non payers.

I'll stand by my previous statement in the old thread that everyone deserves a chance and I was going to keep an open mind. Now that that's over with, I'm glad I didn't bid in the first auction and won't be bidding in any others.
I am sure the brothers will be back after the weekend to reassure us about yet another red flag.
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Old 03-31-2018, 02:56 PM
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Now I'm sure it's just a coincidence that there were so many non payers.

I'll stand by my previous statement in the old thread that everyone deserves a chance and I was going to keep an open mind. Now that that's over with, I'm glad I didn't bid in the first auction and won't be bidding in any others.
Makes one wonder if all those non-payers were due to shill bidding by friends and family of the righteous Battles brothers....
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Old 03-31-2018, 05:36 PM
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Makes one wonder if all those non-payers were due to shill bidding by friends and family of the righteous Battles brothers....
Probably mom bidding up her consignments.
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Probably mom bidding up her consignments.
1.) Unless the names of the “non-bidder” are disclosed, I’m assuming it is shill bids of the house.
2.) A little quick to have the cards up on Ebay, and what does the consignor get? The Ebay price minus the Ebay and PayPal fees, minus the “friend” shipping it fee, minus a vig, even though the consignor consigned for a non-Ebay auction? Why not run them again in the next auction and call out any non-payment bidders?

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Old 03-31-2018, 09:43 PM
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Cory he doesn't take Paypal. I have yet to run across another ebay seller who doesn't take Paypal. Daniel, care to explain?
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I thought not taking PayPal was against eBay policy?
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I thought not taking PayPal was against eBay policy?
Apparently this is a recent change as I have run into other sellers who are no longer accepting PP for ebay purchases. I figure this is now allowed by ebay due to upcoming split between PP and ebay. For buyers on ebay, at least as of now, they are not eligible for ebay bucks if a CC is used. So when there is a 8-10% back in ebay bucks and you are counting on that to offset some of your purchase price, make sure the seller accepts PP.
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Cory he doesn't take Paypal. I have yet to run across another ebay seller who doesn't take Paypal. Daniel, care to explain?
Peter,

There are MANY eBay sellers who don't accept PayPal. If you have your own internet merchant account you don't have to accept PayPal on eBay. Getting your own merchant account is a long process which is why most people just give in and accept PayPal. We already have a merchant account for Candiman Auctions so why pay PayPal a higher fee? Isn't it smart business to save as much on expenses as possible when running a business?

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Old 04-02-2018, 12:11 PM
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There are MANY eBay sellers who don't accept PayPal. If you have your own internet merchant account you don't have to accept PayPal on eBay. Getting your own merchant account is a long process which is why most people just give in and accept PayPal. We already have a merchant account for Candiman Auctions so why pay PayPal a higher fee? Isn't it smart business to save as much on expenses as possible when running a business?

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Not really when most people who would buy from you expect to pay by paypal. Sure works for every seller I have ever dealt with and that is hundreds. Before you go can you confirm or deny lexus1584? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Now I'm sure it's just a coincidence that there were so many non payers.

I'll stand by my previous statement in the old thread that everyone deserves a chance and I was going to keep an open mind. Now that that's over with, I'm glad I didn't bid in the first auction and won't be bidding in any others.
Agreed...I was a fool and tried to give them a chance. Seeing the shenanigans these guys are pulling...I'm done. Ebay needs to pull the plug on the jokers.
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Maybe someone won Hank at a bargain price but didn't pay and that's why the card was back on ebay within days. You never know, Bob, anything is possible, right?
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Maybe someone won Hank at a bargain price but didn't pay. You never know, Bob, anything is possible, right?
Yes...anything is possible....burn me once...shame on you.....I'm done.
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The Ebay scans are the exact same scans in the auction listings. Clear on the Aaron and the Fran Tarkenton. I would find this odd as well
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The Ebay scans are the exact same scans in the auction listings. Clear on the Aaron and the Fran Tarkenton. I would find this odd as well
They are efficient!! Move the unpaid lots with no wasted effort.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:23 PM
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The Aaron situation is pretty fishy. A non-paying bidder in their auction, then it suddenly sells 15 days later on the BAY?

The "there's something fishy here" expression relates to one of my guys, Charles Lindbergh. When Bruno Hauptmann, the accused kidnapper of Lindy Jr., claimed that a "Mr. Fisch" was the real kidnapper and conveniently he was now dead...the phrases "fish story" and "something's fishy.." originated.

Candiman = Fishiman.

I applaud the members here, especially Peter, who are trying to prevent fraudsters from running amok.
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They are efficient!! Move the unpaid lots with no wasted effort.
I will go out on a limb and say their time on ebay is going to be limited...Good work Peter et al.....

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Well, it's either a non-paying bidder () or the house shilled up the auction because it wasn't going high enough. How many people are willing to believe the first explanation?
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Well, it's either a non-paying bidder () or the house shilled up the auction because it wasn't going high enough. How many people are willing to believe the first explanation?
Peter,

If you actually look at the items from the website auction that were unpaid and have been resold, almost every one of them has sold for less on eBay then they did on the website. There is no conspiracy going on here. I know you guys would love there to be but there simply isn't. When we started the website, for the first auction we obviously wanted to get as many people to register as possible. Therefore, we didn't require any hobby references or credit card information when registering. That, along with some bidders reneging because they said they didn't read this forum prior to registering and bidding in our auction, did result in several non-paying bidders. In the near future, we will begin to implement requirements when registering to bid in order to deter potential non-paying bidders.

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Old 04-04-2018, 03:06 AM
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I'll take the latter!

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Here's the bid history of the '54 Aaron.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

1853 items bid on and 48% with sipeemen1. Sounds like someone who has influence w/ eBay should contact them about related shill bidding and other illegal practices.
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Here's the bid history of the '54 Aaron.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

1853 items bid on and 48% with sipeemen1. Sounds like someone who has influence w/ eBay should contact them about related shill bidding and other illegal practices.
And only 16 retractions.
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And only 16 retractions.
Look at the bid retractions of the other bidders. Almost all have 2 or more and one has 41.
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I received my cards today and other than the 55 Bowman Don Mossi with severe back damage the cards were as described.

Now if Daniel is smart enough to take my advise in post #98 we will see pick up posts with Candiman in the title when his next auction ends.
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Hey guys,

This will be the last time we post on the forum. At least until after some time has passed and we run several more auctions. Only time is going to prove that we are doing things the right way. We came on here to tell our story as Leon advised us to. That was the right decision and we are glad we did. We have had some great conversations with some wonderful people on here and through pm's, emails, and phone calls. Unfortunately there is just too much negativity for us to continue engaging with you guys on here. We are extremely busy working on our next auction and the subsequent one's and we have to focus on running our business. We asked for a chance to prove ourselves and overall we don't believe we were given that chance and that it would be counterproductive to continue posting on here. If you didn't participate in our March 2018 auction then you have never done business with us and how a review of a company can be posted by someone who has never done business with them we'll never know.

We are doing things the right way and that will become apparent as time passes. We will be running several more auctions this year and for years to come. I hope after that some time has passed you guys will reevaluate your opinions of Candiman Auctions.

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