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Old 03-27-2018, 12:41 PM
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A question for David, Taylor, and pretty much anyone else, and I ask this without any cynicism at all:

What do you want to see done to make America safer from these terrible assaults? Do you suggest any changes at all with any gun laws, or do you think the status quo is just fine? You guys know a whole lot more than I do, so I take your words seriously. Again, this is a sincere question. Your encyclopedic knowledge on guns is duly respected.

The floor is yours.
Barry, I don't have the answer. When I asked you the same question, you didn't have the answer either. Guess what? There are many problems in America that we just don't have answers to. If we had all the answers, why is there still a drug problem in America? Why is there still a gang problem in America? Why is there still a (fill in the blank) problem in America?

Part of the problem, as I see it, is that the tools are in place to try and prevent the whackos from getting the guns, but the information isn't being disseminated. Look at the church shooter in San Antonio. He received a dishonorable discharge from the military, but the military failed to report that. That should have kept him from purchasing the weapon. And look at the Florida shooter. The cops were called to his house thirty-something times. He was reported to the FBI more than once. But, once again, the information wasn't disseminated.

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Old 03-27-2018, 12:46 PM
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I certainly agree that better information would be one way to make things safer. And I didn't dodge your question, but like you said I didn't have an answer. I'm smart enough to know that you know a whole lot more about gun culture than I do. I didn't grow up in that environment, never owned a gun, and never knew anyone who had one where I lived. So it's silly for me to pretend I have all the answers. I don't. I would rather listen than preach.

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Old 03-27-2018, 05:38 PM
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The issues with gun control are not the guns but with the was children are raised, desensitization of minds and the media.

I have been an avid shooter and sportsman since 5 years old. I was raised with guns in the open in my home. Difference is I was educated on safety, use and history. I was the state championship in marksmanship with a rifle at 11 and then again with a shotgun for trap and skeet at 13. My family takes opening day of pheasant and deer season off each year. BTW, hunting is not just sport. I do fill a freezer and feed my family for a year with my harvests, and yes at times I use a semi-automatic shotgun.

Families don't sit down for dinner each night, play board games or spend the quality time together as in the past. We see horrible images in pop culture that would have shocked our grandparents. The media makes sure that they get the highest ratings by replying over and over again tragedies across the globe. Here is the root of the problems that plague our country. The gun issues are not global but local. Why? Family values and upbringing. Unfortunately, we can't parent all the children that have a lacking home life but small steps can help. Turn off or disconnect the cable/dish TV, shut off the Xbox and power down the PC. Buy a firearm, learn to safely use and teach your children the same and finally get a permit to carry. These sick humans wouldn't think of harming our children if the entire lawful community was armed.

I know this is a pipe dream that Americans way of life will de-evolve to a simpler way but one can hope.

Sorry for the long rant.

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Old 03-27-2018, 06:40 PM
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Hey Craig, legit question from someone who has never done shotgun shooting.

what is the difference between trap and skeet?

thanks, and thank you for your support of the 2nd Amendment!
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Old 03-27-2018, 09:30 PM
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Trap:
https://www.fieldandstream.com/begin...-trap-shooting

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https://mynssa.nssa-nsca.org/skeet-basics/
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:23 PM
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well I'll be! all this time what I thought was skeet was trap!

I thought that the clay targets high in the air was skeet, but that is when they are low to simulate low bird flight right?
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:06 PM
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well I'll be! all this time what I thought was skeet was trap!

I thought that the clay targets high in the air was skeet, but that is when they are low to simulate low bird flight right?

The high house only angles up slightly and the low house rises a bit more.
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Not going to launch any volleys either way but will tell you that the if the op was impressed by the school walkouts many were a sham.

Many schools have an agenda to push on this topic. I can tell you with 100% certainty that my sons school made this walkout nonsense required of students and invited the local news to broadcast. My family is historically sportsmen and I was a competitive marksman until tremors caused by chemo kept me from continuing.

My son did not wish to participate because of his thoughts but was told there was not a choice. This was a common issue with many local schools.

Knowing this, I have no faith in the whole nonsense.
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