T210 Population Question

[timn1]

I am no expert on T210s but since no one else has posted these figures, I will. I have been playing around with pop reports recently and here are the totals for the various T210 series (as of about 3 weeks ago):

PSA SGC TOT # in series PER CARD
235 555 790 75 10.533
396 597 993 87 11.414
216 597 813 95 8.558
109 167 276 49 5.633
121 369 490 87 5.632
127 193 320 66 4.848
81 126 207 67 3.090
292 540 832 114 7.298

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by timn1

I am no expert on T210s but since no one else has posted these figures, I will. I have been playing around with pop reports recently and here are the totals for the various T210 series (as of about 3 weeks ago):

PSA SGC TOT # in series PER CARD
235 555 790 75 10.533
396 597 993 87 11.414
216 597 813 95 8.558
109 167 276 49 5.633
121 369 490 87 5.632
127 193 320 66 4.848
81 126 207 67 3.090
292 540 832 114 7.298

I have never had much faith in graded card #s. We have no idea how many ungraded cards there are. Then the graded #s are wrong because of resubmissions to the same or other company. I know I myself have affected those graded #s by at least 40 cards.

[timn1]

Lots of things can affect the graded card pop reports and make them incomplete if not unreliable. I think this type of survey may be more useful than some would be, however, because there's no particular reason to believe that one series of T210 would be affected more than the others by those factors.

I also feel like the order of scarcity pretty much confirms what we have always been told by the experts (1, 2, and 8 easier, etc.) - But take it FWIW to you-

[sb1]

I believe many of the T210 collections are largely ungraded, primarily due to the size of the set and the cost of grading, with the fact that most won't grade all that high.

As to guesstimates, I would take each number provided per series and multiply it times 3 and I think you will be close to actual populations.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by sb1

I believe many of the T210 collections are largely ungraded, primarily due to the size of the set and the cost of grading, with the fact that most won't grade all that high.

As to guesstimates, I would take each number provided per series and multiply it times 3 and I think you will be close to actual populations.

All good points by Scott, and a couple of others are that the T210 cards are not, besides for a handful of popular ones (Jackson, Stengel, etc.), cards that an investor are interested in, and thus many are in the hands of collectors who do/did not collect/buy graded cards, or would even consider having them graded. They are definitely low in population compared to the Monstrous T206 cards, but my guess is that they are still mostly in the hands of collectors and to a smaller extent non-collectors, and a whole mess still remain unslabbed. I think it is even possible that you could x4 the graded numbers and still be reasonably accurate. It is definitely helpful to see those graded card numbers as a point of reference.

Brian

[Piratedogcardshows]

Originally Posted by timn1

I am no expert on T210s but since no one else has posted these figures, I will. I have been playing around with pop reports recently and here are the totals for the various T210 series (as of about 3 weeks ago):

PSA SGC TOT # in series PER CARD
235 555 790 75 10.533
396 597 993 87 11.414
216 597 813 95 8.558
109 167 276 49 5.633
121 369 490 87 5.632
127 193 320 66 4.848
81 126 207 67 3.090
292 540 832 114 7.298

I believe those numbers are very telling to the different levels of scarcity within the various Series. Very interesting to see them posted. Thank you for the information.

[Piratedogcardshows]

18 months since the start of this thread and I stand by my population guess even more There has not been a significant new collection come up for sale / auction in quite some time. There are a billion T206 Cobbs but no new T210's every make there way to the market. That goes for a lot of Southern issues as well such as T209-2 and T211. After a sparse year when I saw REA didnt have much by the way of those issues I got a little worried. My bank account has never been happier though lol.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jason

18 months since the start of this thread and I stand by my population guess even more There has not been a significant new collection come up for sale / auction in quite some time. There are a billion T206 Cobbs but no new T210's every make there way to the market. That goes for a lot of Southern issues as well such as T209-2 and T211. After a sparse year when I saw REA didnt have much by the way of those issues I got a little worried. My bank account has never been happier though lol.

Great set that i still need to finish the Ft Worth team set. Been buying Eddie Mathews cards and Wade Boggs bats instead. Someday I hope to be able to focus on a card project till it is finished. Probably won't be any time soon.

[Vintagecatcher]

I'll 2nd Jason's comments regarding how few new T210's are showing up.

Other than one's that have been on eBay forever, very few new listings.

Waiting impatiently for the drought to end!

Patrick