Reprising the T206 "Elite 12"......show them, if you have any of them

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Ron

" That would be a complete Piedmont & EPDG run which I think David Hall has only done so far but I could be completely wrong. "

This is partially true.

I'm sure David Hall has the complete Elite 11 run, since I sold him quite a number of these cards several years ago.

Also, Drew (from New Jersey) may have a complete run. While we were making some trades a few years ago, he showed me his
two T206 sets. And, if I recall correctly he has all (or most of) the Elite 11 run cards in his 2nd set.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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David Hall has his Elite 12 listed in the PSA Registry and is 100% complete. I'm trying to locate the Tubby Spencer Piedmont 350 that is or was graded SGC 40. Maybe you or Drew has or had this card. I'm also not sure how many raw ones might be out there but I believe the Spencer is the key to the set if not counting Schulte.

I'm just trying to understand how some are much easier to find than others. I guess I'm having this issue because in my mind I'm thinking that all 11 were on the same sheet and should have very similar populations.

[Luke]

Ron,

They probably were not all on the same sheet. This sheet of Piedmont 150s has Karger, Schaefer, Mullin and Lindaman on it. The others would have been on other sheets most likely.
https://photos.imageevent.com/patric...203%20Full.jpg

One thing we'll never know is if these players were pulled at different times. Poses could have been pulled one at a time or a few at time, or all at once.

Also, even if they were all pulled at the same time, a normal distribution would likely have one or two poses that are extra tough to find just based on randomness.

There were clearly a ton of changes made to sheets during the entire print run. It wouldn't surprise me at all if these guys were pulled at different times which lead to the disparity in populations now.

Finding this pattern was an awesome discovery. Within the group, there are certainly different tiers of toughness for individual players. Figuring out that part of it may not possible.

[frankrizzo29]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

David Hall has his Elite 12 listed in the PSA Registry and is 100% complete. I'm trying to locate the Tubby Spencer Piedmont 350 that is or was graded SGC 40. Maybe you or Drew has or had this card. I'm also not sure how many raw ones might be out there but I believe the Spencer is the key to the set if not counting Schulte.

I'm just trying to understand how some are much easier to find than others. I guess I'm having this issue because in my mind I'm thinking that all 11 were on the same sheet and should have very similar populations.

Ron,

With many thanks to a fellow Net54 member, he introduced me to someone who sold me a Tubby P350 that is graded SGC 40. May I ask the significance of why you were looking for this particular card?

If you'd rather email me, feel free to do so at frankbev29@yahoo.com.

Frank

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by frankrizzo29

Ron,

With many thanks to a fellow Net54 member, he introduced me to someone who sold me a Tubby P350 that is graded SGC 40. May I ask the significance of why you were looking for this particular card?

If you'd rather email me, feel free to do so at frankbev29@yahoo.com.

Frank

Hi Frank, At the time of that post, the SGC 40 was the only Spencer I didn't own on both the Registries besides the one David Hall owned. Since then, that SGC 40 has come up for sale a few times. I was working on counting all known at that time. Since then, 3 more raw ones have shown up.

[frankrizzo29]

Thanks Ron, impressive that you owned that many of the Spencers! It's been a super tough one to find of the Elite 11s, so I was happy to have found it.

[ahumes13]

So I made it to 21/22 Elite 11 P350s/EPDGs (could not manage to track down a Ewing EPDG card), but it is time to throw in the towel and move them on to someone else so I can chase some other cards. This thread is what started my interest in the Elite 11 cards and I spent a good part of the last year joyfully tracking them down! Thanks for starting this thread and to the many members that helped me along the way!