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[vintagetoppsguy]

The Paige has decent eye appeal. I would guess a 2.5 or 3.

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The Paige has decent eye appeal. I would guess a 2.5 or 3.

That's what I'm hoping. The crease in his cap is more of a wrinkle as you can't see or feel anything from it on the back. The biggest thing that will hurt it is the rounded corners. My guess because of the centering and eye appeal is a 2.5. I probably won't send it in until next month (see what April specials are available) on a 10+ card $10 bulk. But that is a 50-day turnaround now, so it will be awhile before I get results.

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[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The Paige has decent eye appeal. I would guess a 2.5 or 3.

I was an underbidder on that Paige. I just didn't see it getting higher than a '2' if it was unaltered, and with the backstory on the cards, the odds were pretty good that some of those might come back "A". I bid accordingly.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I just didn't see it getting higher than a '2' if it was unaltered

I'm not sure how they would grade that right border. Would that be considered paper loss or chipping? If they consider it chipping, I can see it getting a 3, maybe even a 3.5. If it's paper loss, maybe even as low as a 1.5. I don't submit to PSA, so I'm not familiar with their grading standards.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm not sure how they would grade that right border. Would that be considered paper loss or chipping? If they consider it chipping, I can see it getting a 3, maybe even a 3.5. If it's paper loss, maybe even as low as a 1.5. I don't submit to PSA, so I'm not familiar with their grading standards.

They consider it "chipping", but I was looking at the four corners and the creased corner on the bottom right. They are too fuzzy. I bet money it would grade a '2', give or take a half. No way was it a '4' like they described. Plus it has a wrinkle running from the top down thru his cap. If the card '3's, I would sell it as quick as I could before the grader changed his mind.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

They consider it "chipping", but I was looking at the four corners and the creased corner on the bottom right. They are too fuzzy. I bet money it would grade a '2', give or take a half. No way was it a '4' like they described. Plus it has a wrinkle running from the top down thru his cap. If the card '3's, I would sell it as quick as I could before the grader changed his mind.

so you are saying they didnt describe the card accurately at all to say its a 4..with zero chance to be a 4...or at least 99 out of a 100 chance.....

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so you are saying they didnt describe the card accurately at all to say its a 4..with zero chance to be a 4...or at least 99 out of a 100 chance.....

I'm saying that card will not '4'. It will probably '2'...the winning bidder thinks it will '2' and would be pleased with a '3' grade. Based upon where they got the cards from, let's hope the cards grade at all. Not a knock against Candiman, but their relatives were pure shysters. No, I'm not a professional grader, but I have sent enough cards to PSA that I know what they look for.

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm saying that card will not '4'. It will probably '2'...the winning bidder thinks it will '2' and would be pleased with a '3' grade. Based upon where they got the cards from, let's hope the cards grade at all. Not a knock against Candiman, but their relatives were pure shysters. No, I'm not a professional grader, but I have sent enough cards to PSA that I know what they look for.

In response to the previous poster you replied to, I would say yeah, they over graded the card. I see 0% of a chance it will grade a 4. The corners are just too rounded. I bid and paid figuring I would be okay if it graded a 2, but hopeful for a 2.5 or 3. I'd be shocked and very happy if it sees a 3.5, but that is not my expectation. The chipping, the wrinkle, the rounding corners, etc all fit within PSA's guidelines for a 3. But add them all up and it could easily see a 2 or 2.5 because it is well centered and the surface and color is actually pretty nice.

I will certainly report back when I get it back from PSA, but unfortunately that's probably 3 months from now. Of course there is worry it doesn't grade. If it doesn't then we will truly see if they will back their words.