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Old 03-19-2018, 11:58 AM
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Default Iconic cards

Iconic cards T206 Wagner & 1952 Topps Mantle are without question monster cards to our hobby.

I would be willing to bet that most non-collectors are at least familiar with these images. Many may even have some idea to the value of the cards.

My question. Besides these two cards what would you consider iconic cards to our hobby. Not thinking value is everything here. Some could are that the Billy Ripken “f face” is one.

What cards are the pillar of our hobby?

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I am sure there are prior threads on this but off the top of my head
89 UD Griffey
Cobb red portrait
41 PB DiMaggio maybe
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‘53 Satchel Paige
‘57 Brooks Robinson RC (my prejudices shown)
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Cracker Jack ty Cobb / joe jax
M101-5 Ruth rookie
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I don’t think the Lou is there yet. I would vote for his 33 Goudey above the exhibit. Plane beauty of the card and popularity of the type.
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In the PreWar space, I concur on the CJs of Shoeless and Cobb. After those two, for iconic, maybe the 14 CJ Matty.

Perhaps the 33 Goudey Ruth #53 and the other three Ruths from the set, even over the M101, in terms of "iconic" to the broadest swath of people.

Maybe the T206 Cobbs and D304 Cobb.

As Peter said, perhaps the 41PB Joe D.

I'm a Yankee and Gehrig fan but don't think he has any cards that compete with the above in the iconic category. The 33 Goudey over the 1925 Exhibit though, in terms of "iconic."

PostWar, the 51B and 56T Mantles are pillars to many. The popular RCs are all iconic to their respective decades, i.e., Rose, Ryan, and Reggie. Schmidt and Brett. Then come the 80s guys. Canseco RR was huge. 89 Griffey. 84D Mattingly was a craze to so many boys in that era. 85 Mcgwire USA. Certainly some other images really capture that halcyon time, lol. 86TT Bo Jackson.

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FWIW....which isn’t much.... the Wikipedia entry for ‘baseball cards’ has displayed a ‘88 Goodwin Champions King Kelly, T206 Wagner, ‘33 Goudey Fox and a 1954 Bowman Vern Bickford.
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I don’t think the Lou is there yet.
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I don’t think the Lou is there yet. I would vote for his 33 Goudey above the exhibit. Plane beauty of the card and popularity of the type.

I MO, the '34 Goudey Gehrigs (especially #37) rate above the '33 issues (I've never been a fan of the same picture being used twice in the same set).

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...and this has always been high on my list:

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I MO, the '34 Goudey Gehrigs (especially #37) rate above the '33 issues (I've never been a fan of the same picture being used twice in the same set).

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Hi Clyde,

I struggled between those myself given the 34 IMO looks better with the closeup and has a lower pop than the 33. I actually own a 34 and not the 33. But I honestly think the 33 is more popular in our hobby so it gets the nod between the two.

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How about those which showed up in TV shows and movies?
The prop (baseball card) used must have been known in general to the casual audience.

T206 Wildfire Schulte (move: "Diminished Capacity")
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (ST: DS9 - ep."In The Cards")
1952 Topps Andy Pafko (movie: "Cop Out")
1962 Topps Roger Maris (ST:TNG - ep. "The Most Toys" - the card used belonged to Gene Roddenberry. I would LOVE to have that card.)
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1951 Bowman Mantle

1951 Bowman Mays

1954 Topps Hank aaron

1948 leaf Jackie Robinson

Pretty iconic cards in my opinion. I didn’t see anyone mention these.
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In the Gehrig world...I believe the 34 goudy portrait to be the quintessential iconic gehrig card hands down.
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Hands down, the 1914-15 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson (dont have pic) and this
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How about those which showed up in TV shows and movies?
The prop (baseball card) used must have been known in general to the casual audience.

T206 Wildfire Schulte (move: "Diminished Capacity")
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (ST: DS9 - ep."In The Cards")
1952 Topps Andy Pafko (movie: "Cop Out")
1962 Topps Roger Maris (ST:TNG - ep. "The Most Toys" - the card used belonged to Gene Roddenberry. I would LOVE to have that card.)
'54 Aaron in Sandlot with the guy playing Babe Ruth that doesn't look like Babe Ruth at all...(There was also a '63 on the wall of Aaron, I believe, and the movie was supposed to take place in the summer of '62)
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Aaron Rookie, 86-87 Fleer Jordan, Any 33 Goudey Ruth, UD Griffey, Namath Rookie, 1990 Score Bo Jackson (Black & White)

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A few more

N162 Anson
Just So Young
1914 BN Ruth
T206 Cobb/Cobb Back
T210 Jackson
1968 Ryan
1982 TT Ripken
1984 Donruss Mattingly
1985 Topps Oly Mcgwire
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Aside from those mentioned I'd add the e90-1 Jackson, 55 clemente, and 48 Paige. If the standard is those outside of the hobby would recognize the card I'd guess the 33 Ruth #144 and 86 fleer Jordan would be at the top of the list.
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These 5 come to mind:

t206 Cobb (red is my favorite)
86 Jordan (of course)
53 Paige (great portrait)
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When I first read the title, I thought it was "ironic cards," and was very confused when reading the replies. Funny how one letter sure changes perspective.

As far as the question goes, I would say the Clemente is iconic.
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How about those which showed up in TV shows and movies?
The prop (baseball card) used must have been known in general to the casual audience.

T206 Wildfire Schulte (move: "Diminished Capacity")
1951 Bowman Willie Mays (ST: DS9 - ep."In The Cards")
1952 Topps Andy Pafko (movie: "Cop Out")
1962 Topps Roger Maris (ST:TNG - ep. "The Most Toys" - the card used belonged to Gene Roddenberry. I would LOVE to have that card.)
Joe Nuxhall rookie card is in an episode of Married with Children.
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They briefly discuss and show a t206 Wagner in the accountant that Ben Affleck received as payment for a job.

The Mays in ds9 wasn't actually a real card, the back was blank. Kind of cool that it was part of a major story line though.

I remember an episode of family matters from when I was a kid and Urkel has a mint 52 Mantle he trades for something. I also remember him saying it was worth 25k at the time.
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As far as iconic in general, I would bet that a decent amount of people would recognize a ‘54 aaron (it was in the sandlot), maybe a ‘33 Goudey Ruth, ‘89 UD ken Griffey jr, Jordan rookie, and maybe a Red Cobb because of those finds in the news. Also maybe a Baltimore news Ruth

As far as iconic to us collectors that no one else probably knows about, T210 joe Jackson, Cracker Jack Cobb, ‘33 Goudey Lajoie etc.
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No one’s mentioned 52 Topps Jackie. Probably more iconic for non-collectors than the 48 Leaf
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1989 Upper Deck Griffey
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1957 Topps Ted Kluszewski has always been iconic to me.
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I was going to add that but I didn't know which episode it was. Jefferson just bent it right there - I cringe everytime I see that.
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How about the card of the Joe player, whose last name escapes me, beloved by Charley Brown from Peanuts.
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The T206 portrait Johnson would make my short list.



In my opinion, the most beautiful card ever issued, and the greatest pitcher to ever play the game. If that doesn't make for an iconic card, I don't know what does.
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The 5 cards that i was drawn to when I got into vintage cards in 1987 were

#1 1933 goudey Babe Ruth #144

#2 T206 Cobb Bat Off

#3 T205 Cobb

#4 T205 Cy Young

#5 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson
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T206 Cobb Red
1933 Goudey Ruth (I prefer the #144)
1934 Goudey #37 Gehrig
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In my opinion, any one (if not all) of these GOODWIN CHAMPIONS (N162) are the "elite". The artwork and the lithography on these cards is at its best.

Especially, the Mike "King" Kelly card. Note the stormy-looking clouds the artist painted behind Kelly (perhaps to match his "stormy personality").

And, did you know that Kelly is the subject of America's first "pop hit" record......the song, "Slide, Kelly, Slide".








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Joe DiMaggio's last BB card (in a major issue). And, Satchell Paige's first BB card (in a major issue).



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...I think these are all iconic (in design)... absolutely stunning stuff... (yeah, I know the quality of the player is usually important in this discussion... but without the sheer beauty of the card illustration / design, what have you got?)

...also... my Giants flag is obviously flying... ha ha.

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How about the card of the Joe player, whose last name escapes me, beloved by Charley Brown from Peanuts.
Haha, that would be Joe Shlabotnik.
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Haha, that would be Joe Shlabotnik.
OMG, that happened to me! And from that day on I only collected singles instead of taking a lottery chance at packs.
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The 5 cards that i was drawn to when I got into vintage cards in 1987 were

#1 1933 goudey Babe Ruth #144

#2 T206 Cobb Bat Off

#3 T205 Cobb

#4 T205 Cy Young

#5 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson
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US Caramel Hornsby
Yellow Gehrig
Red Portrait and CJ Cobb
Portrait Young
T205 Mathewson
Green Ruth
49B Paige
CJ Wagner
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Maybe some people don't realize that it was a card, but the 1985 Nike promo card of Michael Jordan in the Jumpman pose would be right there with the Wagner T206 and 52T Mantle, IMO. The Jumpman logo that came from that card is ubiquitous.

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