Fake PSA 7 Green Cobb Bid Over $16,000 On eBay?

[griffon512]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

yup, and why would he not provide the whole top half including the barcode.

A card like that needs tons of pics to sell it, someone is going to get burned. I bet you that the card I probably altered on top of it not being the originally graded card.

For some it needs a ton of pics to sell it, for someone else the current pictures are worth over $18,000 and counting. These are not newbies bidding on it.

My first impression after seeing the pic on ebay was that the top of the holder might be frosted or it might be glare from the pic. It appears to be just glare.

The most likely scenario as far as I can tell is what Peter alluded to: that this is a fake card with a flip and holder designed by someone who has successfully replicated many of the features of a previous generation PSA flip/holder. If a previous photo didn't exist showing a different card with the same cert number and the seller didn't raise red flags within the listing (e.g., payment terms that would seem to be a workaround on buyer protection), it would be that much easier to be duped. Gives me another reason to be skeptical of buying high end cards until these issues are resolved.

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by griffon512

For some it needs a ton of pics to sell it, for someone else the current pictures are worth over $18,000 and counting. These are not newbies bidding on it.

My first impression after seeing the pic on ebay was that the top of the holder might be frosted or it might be glare from the pic. It appears to be just glare.

The most likely scenario as far as I can tell is what Peter alluded to: that this is a fake card with a flip and holder designed by someone who has successfully replicated many of the features of a previous generation PSA flip. If a previous photo didn't exist showing a different card with the same cert number and the seller didn't raise red flags within the listing (e.g., payment terms that would seem to be a workaround on buyer protection), it would be that much easier to be duped. Gives me another reason to be skeptical of buying high end cards until these issues are resolved.

I mean, if you can afford this card you can afford flying somewhere to buy it in person

[Steve D]

Also, since the one on ebay is a more recent label/flip, shouldn't it identify the back cigarette brand on it?

The SCP card was identified as "Piedmont", why isn't the one on ebay, since it purports to be a later label?

I just noticed that the one on ebay is a Sweet Caporal, so obviously a different card!

Steve

[dplath]

Interestingly when you scan the bar code using the PSA Cert app it checks out as being a NM 7 Green Cobb and that the cert has hologram security with barcode on back.

While we’re on the subject of fake PSA slabs/certs...

I recently won an 86 Fleer Sticker Jordan PSA 10 in PWCC. When I went to add the card to my registry PSA said to send them pics because the previous owner said he still has the card. So I sent pics and apparently he sent pics too because PSA said there’s something wrong and I needed to send the card in. I had notified Brent right away that there might be an issue and was keeping in touch with him so after PSA requested that I send it in he had me send the card back to him and refunded my money. I never followed up with him to see what came of it. Here’s a link to the eBay listing:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F401488259062

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by dplath

Interestingly when you scan the bar code using the PSA Cert app it checks out as being a NM 7 Green Cobb and that the cert has hologram security with barcode on back.

Correct, PSA's database identifies the cert # as a PSA 7 T206 Cobb-Green background with a Piedmont-150 back.

The card on ebay is a Sweet Caporal-350 back.

Steve

[Steve D]

And now, the listing has just been removed

Steve

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by steve d

and now, the listing has just been removed :d

steve

relisted

[dplath]

Yeah, I hadn’t noticed the discrepancy in the back type.

I was filing a report with eBay, notifying them that there’s something wrong with the card and then saw that the listing was removed.