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Old 03-16-2018, 08:20 AM
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Sgc seems to be having pretty good turnaround times. I would only pay twice on the real high grade 8-10. I would be using sgc or bvg as kinda of a pre screener to determine unaltered, authentic, etc.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:47 AM
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I personally have had better luck cracking cards out for crossover than sending the card in the holder. About 50-50 when I send the card in the holder that the grades will match. Thats just PSA/BVG to SGC as I have never submitted to the other two. Burnt a few times cracking cards out as a few have come back altered from PSA/BVG.
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Over the years I have sent numerous PSA to SGC Cross attempts and several BGS to SGC attempts as my preferred slab of choice has been SGC for a long time. Nearly all attempts were done trying to cross PSA/BGS 7s to SGC 84s

In my experience -

BGS to SGC is horrendous - maybe 25% success rate

PSA to SGC is somewhat better and probably hits around 50% success with one caveat - the new "lighthouse" hologram slabs seem to crossover at a rate of 90+ percent success. I have had 1 instance where a PSA 8 came back as an SGC 92 but all other successes were 7s to 84s.

One can only assume that PSA has tightened up their standards lately?
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Ha! I tried cracking out one PSA card in a newer holder, a 1987 Larry Bird. Thank goodness it was a low $ card as I had a heck of a time with new "press inside each other" slab - ruined the card. It is way more difficult to get cards out of the newer PSA cases. I will not try anymore, nope, not a chance. Back in the day, PSA slabs were easy to safely crack. Also, SGC pretty easy to crack out. BGS slabs are like Fort Knox, good luck with those.
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Maybe I should post a youtube video of how to safely kill any slab.
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Scott, in all sincerity, a YouTube video like that would be very helpful and greatly appreciated
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Scott, in all sincerity, a YouTube video like that would be very helpful and greatly appreciated
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Maybe I should post a youtube video of how to safely kill any slab.
In a pinch at the Philly show a couple weeks ago, Scott successfully cracked a BVG holder of mine in about a minute with just a pocket knife. It was quite impressive.
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That's how I always do it. I couldn't remember whose card it was that I cracked lol.
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Ha! I tried cracking out one PSA card in a newer holder, a 1987 Larry Bird. Thank goodness it was a low $ card as I had a heck of a time with new "press inside each other" slab - ruined the card. It is way more difficult to get cards out of the newer PSA cases. I will not try anymore, nope, not a chance. Back in the day, PSA slabs were easy to safely crack. Also, SGC pretty easy to crack out. BGS slabs are like Fort Knox, good luck with those.

BGS slabs are easy to crack. David, who is also a member on here, posted this some time ago.
I had around 5-6 to crack and his method worked great. I was done all 5-6 in a matter of minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzrEsDe7TqQ
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I have an auction this weekend but maybe when I'm caught up I'll do so. A number of members have seen my method, it takes about 20 seconds. It's not subtle, but unless you're a complete klutz, it's very safe for the card. I've cracked dozens, and oddly the worse the grading company the tougher their slabs (Think PRO, Gem Mint, FGS and all those goofy companies) Beckett is the hardest of the big three but the same method can be used on all holders. If I tried to describe it I think it would sound much harder or more dangerous than it is.
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I typically just clip the corners off diagonally (wire cutter pliers - my dad use to call them dikes) and then slide a knife blade in the slit and work it from there on both top corners.

Haven't tried the new PSA Flip but all others seem to work fine... takes just a minute or two
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I typically just clip the corners off diagonally (wire cutter pliers - my dad use to call them dikes) and then slide a knife blade in the slit and work it from there on both top corners.

Haven't tried the new PSA Flip but all others seem to work fine... takes just a minute or two
similar to my method but I mistrust clippers because sometimes they cause the slab to shatter unpredictably.
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+1 - My method as well.


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I typically just clip the corners off diagonally (wire cutter pliers - my dad use to call them dikes) and then slide a knife blade in the slit and work it from there on both top corners.

Haven't tried the new PSA Flip but all others seem to work fine... takes just a minute or two
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I typically just clip the corners off diagonally (wire cutter pliers - my dad use to call them dikes)
Yup, communication industry lingo. It's short for diagonal pliers.
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I typically just clip the corners off diagonally (wire cutter pliers - my dad use to call them dikes) and then slide a knife blade in the slit and work it from there on both top corners.

Haven't tried the new PSA Flip but all others seem to work fine... takes just a minute or two
My method too but I usually clip only one corner and then pry a flathead screwdriver between the seams. It's easy. BVG holders are very difficult but can be done as it takes more time but is basically the same process, from what I remember. There was quite a bit more tugging and force needed to be used but even BVG holders can be cracked. I haven't cracked any of the newer PSA or SGC holders.

As for crossing cards over I am not sure I have never played that game, at least not to get a higher grade. I have asked SGC for reviews several times and prefer them for my graded cards. I have some PSA slabbed cards and maybe a few BVG's too. And don't forget raw cards. They are great too!!

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