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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is there a single other auction house selling Battlefield's inventory, or selling 52T NM Jackie Robinsons ungraded?

Peter your answer is even more evasive than theirs.

[slipk1068]

A nice midgrade 52 Jackie has been very high on my wantlist for a while. Just waiting for the right card at the right price. It is tempting to go for the one in their auction because I can likely get that for a PSA 4-5 price. If I can get it into a PSA 6 or higher holder, JACKPOT. Battlefield built their business around collectors trying to do just that-find a raw bargain.

I am not fooled. I do think these brothers deserve to be judged separate from their parents, but the safest route is to sit this one out and wait to hear the feedback from their 1st auction.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

I am not fooled. I do think these brothers deserve to be judged separate from their parents, but the safest route is to sit this one out and wait to hear the feedback from their 1st auction.

I don't know about that...I just searched their mother on facebook. She works for an accounting firm in Dothan, Alabama. Does anyone really think they're not close with their parents? This is the same wolf with new sheep clothing.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I don't know about that...I just searched their mother on facebook. She works for an accounting firm in Dothan, Alabama. Does anyone really think they're not close with their parents? This is the same wolf with new sheep clothing.

Great find Dan. I was under the impression she had past away from all the posts on this forum saying she did. This was from about a year and a half ago. The rumors being posted on here was that when she past away their ebay account went from battlefield to war eagle. It was also posted that Carols husband and daughter run the new account.

I was basing my give them a chance on the information that the mother had past. Giving me the impression that maybe there was a legit reason the boys ended up with it to sell off. Now not 100% sure what to think.

[ullmandds]

we should all "friend" her!

[Peter_Spaeth]

How does this RH Mantle "appear"?

[Zact]

The raw 1953 Topps Mantle appears as if there is a possible pinhole near the top center - not sure if it was photoshopped out

[mantlefan]

Originally Posted by Zact

The raw 1953 Topps Mantle appears as if there is a possible pinhole near the top center - not sure if it was photoshopped out

Top looks photoshopped:

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by Zact

The raw 1953 Topps Mantle appears as if there is a possible pinhole near the top center - not sure if it was photoshopped out

The description says there is a pin hole. I don't see what the issue is with this card

James

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How does this RH Mantle "appear"?

His teeth are too white.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by peter_spaeth

how does this rh mantle "appear"?

psa 5.5

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How does this RH Mantle "appear"?

It "appears" NM-MT

[Stonepony]

.....but if you want to see one that "is" Mint- here's mine which I can't help showing at every opportunity
Red Heart Mantle sgc 9 big.jpg

[CandimanAuctions]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

I am not fooled. I do think these brothers deserve to be judged separate from their parents, but the safest route is to sit this one out and wait to hear the feedback from their 1st auction.

David,

Thank you. As I have said I understand that people are skeptical. That is completely fine. If someone isn't comfortable bidding until we get more established that is no problem. But we have to start somewhere. Every auction house did. All we ask is not to be judged before we have even completed our first auction. Please keep following our future auctions and I believe we will end up doing business with many of you in the future.

Thanks,

Daniel

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Peter your answer is even more evasive than theirs.

Not at all. I am pointing out context. The fact that other auction houses don't guarantee their grade, which the OP kept alluding to, really is beside the point here.

If (just to use a perhaps imperfect analogy, and only for illustration) Bernie Madoff's son with no experience was offering you an investment opportunity -- indeed the same one his father previously tried to sell you -- you're going to hold him to a higher standard than a venture capitalist with a 20 year track record with whom you are familiar.

And that's all I am saying here -- the situation calls for caution -- and I am not sure the OP fully understands why so many of us are saying that. It's not an attack, it's not personal, it's just common sense.

[jfkheat]

One issue that I see here that has not been brought up it that many of these high dollar cards have been sold by battlefield and war_eagle on eBay more than one time. They were returned for refunds because they weren't as described. Was that because of photoshopped scans or because the cards had been altered in some way. I would bet that many of the high dollar cards were in slabs when the parents bought them.
James

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not at all. I am pointing out context. The fact that other auction houses don't guarantee their grade, which the OP kept alluding to, really is beside the point here.

If (just to use a perhaps imperfect analogy, and only for illustration) Bernie Madoff's son with no experience was offering you an investment opportunity -- indeed the same one his father previously tried to sell you -- you're going to hold him to a higher standard than a venture capitalist with a 20 year track record with whom you are familiar.

I do understand all of your posts in this thread. Because of my life experiences I judge people on their own actions. Yes that silly way of thinking has got me burnt before. I would still rather give many scum the benefit of doubt rather that talk crap about 1 innocent person no matter who they are related to.

I can see many legit reasons they are selling their parents old inventory. At some point in time I will have to do the same thing with all the junk my dad has acquired. I can guarantee he is much worse than a couple selling some baseball cards listed improperly.

I will end this by saying if they do turn out to be scum I will be pilling it on them as much as anybody else. Just read some of my posts I am not afraid to call out the scum in this hobby even though it has come close to getting me kicked off this wonderful forum a few times.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I do understand all of your posts in this thread. Because of my life experiences I judge people on their own actions. Yes that silly way of thinking has got me burnt before. I would still rather give many scum the benefit of doubt rather that talk crap about 1 innocent person no matter who they are related to.

I can see many legit reasons they are selling their parents old inventory. At some point in time I will have to do the same thing with all the junk my dad has acquired. I can guarantee he is much worse than a couple selling some baseball cards listed improperly.

I will end this by saying if they do turn out to be scum I will be pilling it on them as much as anybody else. Just read some of my posts I am not afraid to call out the scum in this hobby even though it has come close to getting me kicked off this wonderful forum a few times.

Ben I understand your sentiments and generally agree. I just think under the circumstances the merchandise should be presented with having made every attempt ( including TPG and high quality scans and descriptions) to fully disclose the quality and condition of the cards. The cards came from a corrupt organization and we should certainly demand clarity

[frankbmd]

Let’s hear from all those who judged war eagle independently of battlefield, despite having essentially the same inventory and modus operandi.
Granted the venue is different now, but sometimes a leap of faith is off a cliff.

[slidekellyslide]

Coach's Corner is still in business. Shady businesses can keep operating seemingly forever I suppose as long as they offer returns. Battlefield was operating for how long on ebay without any repercussion? War Eagle was the same outfit. I personally believe this family has just decided to go independent and cut out the middleman (ebay).

[Ulidia]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I can see many legit reasons they are selling their parents old inventory. At some point in time I will have to do the same thing with all the junk my dad has acquired. I can guarantee he is much worse than a couple selling some baseball cards listed improperly.

I will end this by saying if they do turn out to be scum I will be pilling it on them as much as anybody else. Just read some of my posts I am not afraid to call out the scum in this hobby even though it has come close to getting me kicked off this wonderful forum a few times.

The issue isn’t that they are apparently selling their parents’ inventory - it is that they appear to be using very similar (much critised) techniques that, prima facile, would make limited sense to an objective bystander.