Charleston v. Clemente

[packs]

I would think the fact that there are so many more Clemente cards is the reason people are more interested in buying them. Set collectors aren't going to chase the Billiken set unless they have some kind of sin to atone for.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by packs

I would think the fact that there are so many more Clemente cards is the reason people are more interested in buying them. Set collectors aren't going to chase the Billiken set unless they have some kind of sin to atone for.

Nice!

I guess I am a bad, bad man then! The Billiken is downright easy when I compare it to the 1910 Punch Cigarros. I am only 70% of the way done with that one and have resigned myself to the fact that it will never be completed!

But back to the topic at hand, do you really think that it is the set collectors? I have always thought that the vast majority of collectors are player collectors, HOF collectors or "star" collectors.

[packs]

I don't think it's only the set collectors but I think that's an audience that Charlston and other players like him who have few cards will not attract. I don't know how many complete sets are registered in the PSA registry, but it's probably more than the known copies of Charlston's card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

For better or worse, other than Paige perhaps, the great Negro League players just aren't known or appreciated or desired by most people who collect, let alone the general public It doesn't surprise me at all, or suggest Clemente is overpriced.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For better or worse, other than Paige perhaps, the great Negro League players just aren't known or appreciated or desired by most people who collect, let alone the general public It doesn't surprise me at all, or suggest Clemente is overpriced.

I just happen to believe that more SHOULD care, but I guess that is a matter of personal opinion and preference...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by aljurgela

I just happen to believe that more SHOULD card, but I guess that is a matter of personal opinion and preference...

no disagreement there

[quinnsryche]

MOST collectors/fans DO know who Clemente is.
MOST collectors/fans DON'T know who Charleston is.
Plain and simple, fame dictates pricing & availability.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

no disagreement there

it is what it is though... at least we are on the same page there....

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For better or worse, other than Paige perhaps, the great Negro League players just aren't known or appreciated or desired by most people who collect, let alone the general public

I would add Josh Gibson to that list as well.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

I would add Josh Gibson to that list as well.

The general public knows Jackie Robinson. They do not know Satchel Paige. And they definitely do not know Josh Gibson.

Edited to add: I see you meant among people who collect. There I don't know. Could be. Most of them know who Derek Jeter is, probably Paige, maybe Gibson, but I didn't know about Gibson until I was an adult, so if I had to guess I would still say that most collectors don't know of him and, in particular, aren't interested in adding a Gibson card to their collections.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by packs

I would think the fact that there are so many more Clemente cards is the reason people are more interested in buying them. Set collectors aren't going to chase the Billiken set unless they have some kind of sin to atone for.

The post quoted above alarmed me!

[packs]

Haha I thank you for your sacrifice.