Hobby terms that annoy you

[seanofjapan]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

That's because a few bad apples ruined it for you. I bet every single Ebay seller has been burned Internationally at least once.

Yeah but I bet every single Ebay seller has also been burned by an American buyer at least once too (more likely multiple times by the amount of complaining I see on here).

This "no international shipping" thing is unique to baseball card dealers. I have a few other collections (stamps, coins, retro video games) and its rare to find American dealers in those items who don't ship internationally. Presumably they've all been burned as well but they don't over-react the way baseball card guys do. Its not unusual for a stamp dealer to have a "No shipping to Latvia" or something in their listings and you can easily deduce that they had a bad experience with a Latvian but took a more measured response than just "domestic sales only".

Those hobbies are a bit more international than baseball cards so those sellers probably have to rely on international sales more than baseball card guys do, but still it strikes me as self defeating. The few guys who are willing to ship to me get all my bids and get more money as a result. I've clicked on lots of cards that I intended to buy only to see that "does not ship to Japan" sign and move on. Lost sales for those guys.

[glynparson]

No way do i ship internationally way more problems then domestically. Sorry it is an inconvenience for you but i can't afford to lose the money from all the over seas scams run on ebay. You can think they are few or equal to the USA all you want but from my experiences you are way off.

[roarfrom34]

when it comes to autographs
"hand signed"

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by glynparson

No way do i ship internationally way more problems then domestically. Sorry it is an inconvenience for you but i can't afford to lose the money from all the over seas scams run on ebay. You can think they are few or equal to the USA all you want but from my experiences you are way off.

I also collect records and CDs. NEVER have had a problem shipping overseas. However, with sports cards, a couple of times it has been an absolute nightmare!

[rats60]

Originally Posted by seanofjapan

Yeah but I bet every single Ebay seller has also been burned by an American buyer at least once too (more likely multiple times by the amount of complaining I see on here).

This "no international shipping" thing is unique to baseball card dealers. I have a few other collections (stamps, coins, retro video games) and its rare to find American dealers in those items who don't ship internationally. Presumably they've all been burned as well but they don't over-react the way baseball card guys do. Its not unusual for a stamp dealer to have a "No shipping to Latvia" or something in their listings and you can easily deduce that they had a bad experience with a Latvian but took a more measured response than just "domestic sales only".

Those hobbies are a bit more international than baseball cards so those sellers probably have to rely on international sales more than baseball card guys do, but still it strikes me as self defeating. The few guys who are willing to ship to me get all my bids and get more money as a result. I've clicked on lots of cards that I intended to buy only to see that "does not ship to Japan" sign and move on. Lost sales for those guys.

I have been on EBay about 20 years and have never been burned by a US buyer. I have also done lots of trades within the US and have never been burned. I have had problems with over seas buyers. The last one resulted in me getting a negative because the card arrived "damaged." The card was sent insured, so the buyer could have filed a claim. I also offer returns on all my items. I guess the buyer thought I would let him keep the card and give him a big discount. People like this make me not want to sell out of the US, it is just not worth the hassle.

[jerrys]

Very rare!!!!!!!!!!!

Sold!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by rats60

I have been on EBay about 20 years and have never been burned by a US buyer. I have also done lots of trades within the US and have never been burned. I have had problems with over seas buyers. The last one resulted in me getting a negative because the card arrived "damaged." The card was sent insured, so the buyer could have filed a claim. I also offer returns on all my items. I guess the buyer thought I would let him keep the card and give him a big discount. People like this make me not want to sell out of the US, it is just not worth the hassle.

It's funny how different people have different experiences.... I've also been on Ebay since 1997, and the only people as a Canadian I've ever been burned by - both as a seller and as a buyer - are Americans.

[seanofjapan]

Originally Posted by rats60

I have been on EBay about 20 years and have never been burned by a US buyer. I have also done lots of trades within the US and have never been burned. I have had problems with over seas buyers. The last one resulted in me getting a negative because the card arrived "damaged." The card was sent insured, so the buyer could have filed a claim. I also offer returns on all my items. I guess the buyer thought I would let him keep the card and give him a big discount. People like this make me not want to sell out of the US, it is just not worth the hassle.

Sorry to hear about that. Obviously I can't speak for the entirety of the 7 billion people living outside the US, and I sympathize, but I guess I kind of find it frustrating that when (I surmise) sellers have a problem with a scammer in one country like that they just ban the entire world instead of buyers from that one country.

So let me just make my pitch to all you ebay baseball card dealers in favor of perhaps taking a more selective approach to the problem.

Take Japan (where I live) and South Korea (a country I've been to for work several times). It is extremely unlikely that anyone will be scammed by your average Japanese or Korean on Ebay. They are extremely honest societies and while as with every society they do have scammers, they are almost exclusively associated with organized crime syndicates who concentrate solely on domestic scams.

Combined those countries have a population of close to 200 million, baseball is by far the most popular sport and baseball card collecting is a hobby in both countries.

Its a massive potential market but for some reason whenever a scammer in Uzbekistan ( or wherever, sorry Uzbekistan) takes a seller for a ride, they cut the cord on innocent Japanese and Korean buyers too (I'm not Japanese BTW, I just live here). That cuts off a huge potential market.

I've never sold baseball cards on ebay but I do have a lot of experience selling other stuff on forums and I've also been burned on a few transactions and there are a few known countries out there where this is a problem (mainly Eastern Europe) and it seems easy to avoid without cutting off everyone.

[ValKehl]

When a seller brags that his pre-War PSA-graded card is 1 of only 8 (or some other low number) in the PSA pop report, but DOESN'T mention that SGC has graded 30 (or a similar number) of the suckers.

[Tom S.]

Whenever the T206 Jack Dunn card is referred to (and pictured!) as a horizontal pose, I feel like doing a facepalm...

[Peter_Spaeth]

"Fresh to the hobby."

As though the guy in whose collection the cards previously resided wasn't part of the hobby?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"Fresh to the hobby."

As though the guy in whose collection the cards previously resided wasn't part of the hobby?

Perhaps that “fresh to the hobby” card was printed last week.