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02-13-2018, 11:13 AM
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That's pretty cool! I really appreciate the information. Has anyone else come across any other silks from the A&G "Polka Dot Nine" series of cabinet cards? I've attached a picture of the Crop of 1884 No 8 cabinet card for reference. Regards, Jeff
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02-13-2018, 12:32 PM
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No problem - I haven't seen others. I'm also curious about the dating. The other tobacco silks I know of are more from the early 1900s/1910s. I don't have my copy of the ACC handy so not sure when they really began printing them.
The set the image is from is from 1884 but I wonder if the silks were produced later than that.
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02-13-2018, 06:37 PM
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Interesting question about the production date. There was a companion silk included in the sale that also featured baseball (teams playing in background). Given the horse and buggy scene in the foreground, my best guess is that these would have been produced in the 1880's as well. Could this pair possibly represent the first baseball scenes produced on silk? Anyone else have any early silks featuring baseball? Regards, Jeff
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02-14-2018, 06:50 AM
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I don't have any at hand but believe I have seen some olders silks such as these before. That said a baseball scene on a silk from the 1880s is very early. BTW, the ACC doesn't give exact dates but lists Silks in the 1912-1915 time frame. No mention of these that I can find.
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02-14-2018, 10:39 AM
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Thanks, Leon - I'm without my ACC right now but that's about what I was thinking with regards to the dating.
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02-14-2018, 08:47 PM
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FWIW, A&G cigarettes were produced with ~3 year old crops at that time. I have two 1888 cigarette packs that are dated June 26th and Dec. 18th 1888 that both advertise being from the "Crop of 1885". Most of the "Crop of 1884" A&G items likely date to ~1887.
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02-16-2018, 09:28 AM
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Thanks Joe for the additional information. Still curious about the "first known baseball silks", I did find this Stevengraph baseball image dated to 1895 from a prior REA listing. However, Stevengraph's were woven silks as compared to the two printed silks I'm researching. Regards, Jeff
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