Congrats eagles and heir fans!

[packs]

Even though final stats wouldn't tell you it was the case, the Eagles defense is what secured the victory. The forced fumble ended any hope the Patriots had.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Even though final stats wouldn't tell you it was the case, the Eagles defense is what secured the victory. The forced fumble ended any hope the Patriots had.

hahha..and what about giving up the lead late in the 4th q.

patriots did force an INT near the end zone..that stopped points..and that wasnt with 2 min left when the other team has to pass every time and they didnt have to forget the run..


all plays count...... forcing zero punts and only stopping 2 drives (one in obvious pass situation and other on a short fg miss ..doesnt mean they 'won' the game.

the eagles offense secured the victory

giving up 500 yards passing didnt secure squat...its the 40+ points the eagles put up that let the eagles get the one turnover....eventually patriots would of dropped the passes as well which could of credited to the eagles defense is the score got into the 60s....


Like i said you cant say the patriots need to retool their defense based on their superbowl performance and at the same time praise the great eagle defense for winning the SB..

Eagles having to go for it on own 45 on 4th and 2 with 6 mins left says a lot

[packs]

All plays don't count when the game is winding down and you need to prevent the Patriots from scoring. Only those plays count if you're going to win the game.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

All plays don't count when the game is winding down and you need to prevent the Patriots from scoring. Only those plays count if you're going to win the game.

all plays count. If eagles dont convert one of those 4th downs, the Eagles defense would of needed to be 'retooled'

Plus if eagles dont give up 30 plus points then they wouldnt of needed a late 'stop'. Still if patriots had more than 3 minutes in the 4th q left and werent forced to pass every down, given that they never punted, they would of scored again.

So the only reason the Eagles got a late 'stop' was cause of the Eagle offense putting them in that great position...eagles defense gets no more credit than the patriots defense..

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

all plays count. If eagles dont convert one of those 4th downs, the Eagles defense would of needed to be 'retooled'

Plus if eagles dont give up 30 plus points then they wouldnt of needed a late 'stop'. Still if patriots had more than 3 minutes in the 4th q left and werent forced to pass every down, given that they never punted, they would of scored again.

So the only reason the Eagles got a late 'stop' was cause of the Eagle offense putting them in that great position...eagles defense gets no more credit than the patriots defense..

That's just not true. Nothing that happened before that fumble influenced that fumble. The fumble happened when it did independent of anything else in the game.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

That's just not true. Nothing that happened before that fumble influenced that fumble. The fumble happened when it did independent of anything else in the game.

wrong again. What happened before did influence the fumble.

Its not a stretch to say what happened before impacts the next possession. If the eagles are only up by 3 or less, theres no sack fumble as the Patriots would of had a ton more time to use as they would of needed only a fg. The eagles offense caused the patriots to need more than a fg.

Teams with the ball needing a td going the full length of the field with under 2 minutes have a greater chance to turn the ball over than teams that don't. Thus what happened before, caused that situation that was more ripe for a sack fumble or int etc.

[paandy]

Have been waiting for this Super Bowl win for 30 years!


Go Birds!!!!

[3-2-count]

What's clear to me after reading this thread is that you all are in the wrong profession and should be NFL football coaches.

The Colts job just became available. Quick, someone grab it!

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

wrong again. What happened before did influence the fumble.

Its not a stretch to say what happened before impacts the next possession. If the eagles are only up by 3 or less, theres no sack fumble as the Patriots would of had a ton more time to use as they would of needed only a fg. The eagles offense caused the patriots to need more than a fg.

Teams with the ball needing a td going the full length of the field with under 2 minutes have a greater chance to turn the ball over than teams that don't. Thus what happened before, caused that situation that was more ripe for a sack fumble or int etc.

Sorry but I could not disagree more. The defense forcing that fumble was a big play and it occurred at a crucial moment. Nothing mattered unless they forced the turnover and you're looking at things after the fact in a way that suggests this was a pre-determined outcome or something. In the moment they had to deliver and they did. They didn't force the turnover by virtue of prior events, like it was some foregone conclusion.

[botn]

It was an exciting game. Not sure the Patriots played their best game. Too bad some of the fans had to riot over the win and destroy their own city. Imagine if the Eagles had lost. Would they have burned the city down to the ground? Unsettling to see how much rage exists that on an occasion to celebrate people had to resort to destroying other peoples' property. Go humans!!!!!

[Neal]

Originally Posted by botn

It was an exciting game. Not sure the Patriots played their best game. Too bad some of the fans had to riot over the win and destroy their own city. Imagine if the Eagles had lost. Would they have burned the city down to the ground? Unsettling to see how much rage exists that on an occasion to celebrate people had to resort to destroying other peoples' property. Go humans!!!!!

From what I read, it seems that there were a lot more arrests in the Boston area than in Philly.

Nick Foles was brilliant. Eagles have an outstanding defense but Brady is the best.

Too bad he is a whiny, crybaby. Never shakes hands when he loses. A real bee-otch ....

[barrysloate]

Many interesting and offbeat stats from the game. Here's one:

Only game in NFL history to be 22-12 at halftime.

[mcgwirecom]

One thing to remember, Jason Peters, Jordan Hicks, Darren Sproles, Caleb Sturgis, and, of course, Carson Wentz are all injured. And the Eagles still won. I was impressed. Underdogs through the entire playoffs.

I am a Philly fan from the Philly area, but I don't really pay much attention to anything but baseball. I didn't have a lot of hope for the playoffs but as I said, they impressed me.

[JollyElm]

The absolute beauty of this game was the aggressiveness/confidence in his team of Eagles Head Coach Doug Pederson. Going for it on 4th down near the end zone (resulting in that trick play for a TD) and then late in the 4th quarter going for it again on 4th down while still on their own side of the field was magnificently beautiful!!!! Virtually every single team in similar situations during the playoffs would have immediately opted for the FG attempt and then a punt, but not the Iggles. They knew what they needed to do to stand a chance against the Pats, and went for it. I am ridiculously impressed. That's why they pulled it out, a belief in their team.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Neal

From what I read, it seems that there were a lot more arrests in the Boston area than in Philly.

Nick Foles was brilliant. Eagles have an outstanding defense but Brady is the best.

Too bad he is a whiny, crybaby. Never shakes hands when he loses. A real bee-otch ....

Not so fast, son.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...-the-evidence/

[Peter_Spaeth]

I still have not seen a satisfactory explanation why Malcolm Butler was benched. This is a guy who played almost every snap this season. He wasn't hurt, he played special teams.

[Neal]

was wondering the same last night, as well as looking for an answer today .... not sure that will ever come

[nolemmings]

The game was somewhat entertaining, and congrats to Eagles fans, but I sure hope it was an aberration. If I want to watch the game played like that on a consistent basis, I'll just buy Arena League tickets and see it there.

One punt in the entire game. One. Now I know nobody tunes in to watch the punters face off, but for cryin in the beer, there was basically zero defense played in that game. May as well have been an NBA All-Star game.

I don't like either team, which may explain things, as I'm sure if my guys won it would have been the greatest game ever played. Also, having recently celebrated another birthday that pushes me even further into curmudgeon land, I'm trying real hard to not sit on my porch and preach about how great football and everything else used to be. Still, one punt?