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View Poll Results: Please vote.. see post for details. Please only vote for 10
C JONES 140 86.96%
J THOME 114 70.81%
V Guerrero 112 69.57%
T Hoffman 54 33.54%
E Martinez 54 33.54%
M Mussina 49 30.43%
B Bonds 64 39.75%
R Clemens 63 39.13%
C Schilling 49 30.43%
O Vizquel 28 17.39%
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:37 AM
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Wow, not even Vlad gets in w/this bunch...

Gotta ask, though - the 7+% of people who voted who don't think Chipper Jones is a HOFer - how would you explain this?
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I guess I'm not very lenient because Chipper was my only vote. Rose would be my add in.
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Only 85% for Chipper?

C'mon people we are worse than the actual HOF voters we complain about! How does a guy with a career WAR in the top 35 position players of all time only get 85% w/ no real PED suspicion, I think some people have a seriously warped sense of who should get into the HOF. Explain yourselves.
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Only 85% for Chipper?

C'mon people we are worse than the actual HOF voters we complain about! How does a guy with a career WAR in the top 35 position players of all time only get 85% w/ no real PED suspicion, I think some people have a seriously warped sense of who should get into the HOF. Explain yourselves.
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Jones
Vlad
Thome
Hoffman
Bonds
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Walker
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Part of the issue that bothers me about HOF voting logic is the people who vote for Clemens but not Bonds or vise versa. There is absolutely NO argument in a reasonable person’s mind to include one and not the other. Probably should get your vote taken away if you do. Looking at you Peter Gammons....

I was born in 1986 and growing up watching the peak of the steroid era at no point did I ever view Mussina as a HOF. Never was the best pitcher in the AL, please don’t quote me his winning % or the fact that he played his entire career in the AL East. Thome is to me is a HOFer but a boarderline one, he hit 600 when the value of that is significantly less impressive. Can’t believe he got as much support as he did his first year, compared to someone like Vlad who goes from 72% to 93% in one year. That is also a major flaw of the voting system voters who vote only first ballot HOFers in their minds in their first year of eligibility. No way should a player have a 20% swing in one year.

At this point the prevailing logic of HOF voting is if so and so got in then this other guy should get in. The system from that persceptive has been broken a long time ago and will only slowly grow worse over time.

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Only 85% for Chipper?

C'mon people we are worse than the actual HOF voters we complain about! How does a guy with a career WAR in the top 35 position players of all time only get 85% w/ no real PED suspicion, I think some people have a seriously warped sense of who should get into the HOF. Explain yourselves.
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