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Old 01-25-2018, 08:05 AM
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Bill you should watch the games, not just read the stat sheet. After all these years, and titles, and comeback victories, with innumerable different receivers, with or without decent running backs, with Gronk playing or not playing, it doesn't seem to matter, there is no question in my mind he is the greatest QB ever. The more interesting discussion is about the rest of the top 5, or 10.
I remember when football was a game played by the players, before their helmets were headsets and the real quarterbacks called their own plays.

Now you have offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, all with access to instaneous video of what the other team is doing in alignments and reactions to each other. Every team has a plethora of coaching personnel both on the sideline and in the press box.

The NFL has become a giant video game orchestrated from off the field. Yeah, they can call audibles before the snap, but many of these can be communicated from off the field.

Let’s face it, the players are like pawns on a chess board. Does anyone ever talk about the best bishop or rook of all-time? Does anyone think that Brady or Rodgers is a queen? Hell no.

Is any quarterback solely responsible for calling dumb ass play that costs team a game? Rarely if ever.

In my opinion the responsibility for the Patriots run falls squarely on the shoulders of the man in the hoodie, Bill Belichick.
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:59 PM
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In my opinion the responsibility for the Patriots run falls squarely on the shoulders of the man in the hoodie, Bill Belichick.
I agree. BB as GM and head coach has orchestrated this dynasty. He finds all the right pieces to the puzzle. Goes after players who are coachable and will do what he tells them. Put Brady on the Browns for the past 15 years and how many SB rings (or even appearances) does he have? BB wants players who put the team before themselves. You won't see them tweeting about how they're gonna win, etc.
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I agree. BB as GM and head coach has orchestrated this dynasty. He finds all the right pieces to the puzzle. Goes after players who are coachable and will do what he tells them. Put Brady on the Browns for the past 15 years and how many SB rings (or even appearances) does he have? BB wants players who put the team before themselves. You won't see them tweeting about how they're gonna win, etc.
And put BB on the Browns and see how many he wins. Oh wait, been there, done that.
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And put BB on the Browns and see how many he wins. Oh wait, been there, done that.
Was he given full GM power like he has now? I don't know the answer, but guessing no.
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