Anyone Collect 1959 Bazooka Football?

[samosa4u]

Alright, this is getting a little confusing now. Somebody here posted a picture of a box that once had 20 pieces of gum inside (Alan Ameche). Now I found this Jim Brown box online:



This is a 40 pack box. So we now know that there were at least two different sizes. This got me thinking about one thing: if you wanted to get your hands on one of the stars, such as Jim Brown or John Unitas, then maybe you had to purchase the 40 pack box. In other words, to get the stars, you had to spend more money. Only the less popular players were found on the 20 pack boxes - what do you guys think? I just came across another 20 pack box now with Chuck Conerly on it and this further supports my above argument. Here it is below:

[jefferyepayne]

No we don't. The first one is of a reprint set done much later.

jeff

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

The first one is of a reprint set done much later.

That Jim Brown bazooka box is a reprint? Really? So Bazooka reprinted this set again or did a different company do it? What year did they do this?

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

That Jim Brown bazooka box is a reprint? Really? So Bazooka reprinted this set again or did a different company do it? What year did they do this?

I may have been too flippant with my response. I've never seen a 40 pack box before but that doesn't mean it isn't original. I'd want to see it up close.

I do know that there have been many attempts at replicating / reprinting these cards. If you go to ebay you will see all sorts of additional players (vintage and new) with this design. I'm not sure if the box you are showing is from 1959 or not but I would just be careful ...

Typically the replicated / reprinted cards are fairly easy to spot as the background white is much brighter than you see on the originals. I expect if you look at the printing technique and compare one you know is an original with one you are not sure, that you will be able to detect a fake.

jeff

[samosa4u]

I do see some "personally made" 1959 Bazooka football cards on eBay, but these ones use different pictures and different players who were never featured in the original set. I'm not too bothered by this.

Have you ever seen any counterfeits of the originals on eBay? I don't see any up at the moment. If I want to purchase a raw Unitas, for example, are you saying that there is a chance it might not be real? Counterfeiters tend to target cards that have become really popular among collectors, and I hate to say this, but I don't think the 1959 Bazooka football cards have reached this level yet. This could obviously change in the future though.

[jefferyepayne]

I could swear I've seen a Brown that looked suspect on ebay but its definitely not there now.

jeff

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

I could swear I've seen a Brown that looked suspect on ebay but its definitely not there now.

jeff

I have seen a Brown that PSA graded despite being cut well inside the cut lines.