365 Days of Roberto Clemente

[71buc]

Howard, is the pin on the lower left covered with a thin plastic film? That's one you don't see often. I have one in my collection but mine does not have the plastic covering. I was curious about yours as I have never physically examined another. Thanks, Mike

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by 71buc

Howard, is the pin on the lower left covered with a thin plastic film? That's one you don't see often. I have one in my collection but mine does not have the plastic covering. I was curious about yours as I have never physically examined another. Thanks, Mike

Hi Mike,

Yes , mine does have a plastic coating. Super tough pin. I too don't recall seeing another. Don't happen to have a 1971 world series pen to go with my 1971 pencil do you? Get photos of that glove and glove box up here! I'm sure people viewing the thread would love to see it! I know I love looking at it.

[71buc]

Thanks for the response Howard. Sorry no 1971 Pencil I wasn't even aware such a thing existed. Thanks for the heads up As I said my pin doesn't have the plastic film. I believe Scott Garner has a Nolan Ryan from the same series sans the plastic film. As requested here is a mint condition 1971 Rawlings World Series Special Glove. Although it is not in mint condition the box features Roberto and Brooks. I have only seen one other and it was missing the lid (not visible in my pics unfortunately). The link below is to the other glove that I am aware of. It sold in a Hunt auction eleven years ago. For the heck of it I am including another Les Banos 11X14 photo. I really love his work.

https://www.huntauctions.com/live/im...=501&lot_qual=

[docpatlv]

Mike,

GREAT Clemente/Robinson Glove & Box!!! I had 2 of those store model gloves in the past, but I sold all of my Roberto gloves (I had about 12). Not sure why I sold them, I think I just decided to go with smaller items (cards, pins, etc.)

Day 25

This next item was obtained from board member Dan B. many years ago. I don't remember if it was a purchase or a trade, I think I traded a Koufax snapshot for it.

ca. early 1970s Snapshot Photo...I love how Roberto is just walking around all the fans. And that suit!!!

[Mark70Z]

Mike,

I think I probably said it before, but really like the Brooksie/Clemente glove and glove box. When the glove/box came up for sale I was short on funds so it would have went for more, but I’m really glad I didn’t have the cash and you ended up with the piece. Goes so well with your collection.

Doc,

I am sorta like you with the gloves with maybe a slight different reasoning. I started to collect all of the different versions of Brooks endorsed gloves back in the day and got to the point I didn’t really like the gloves or how they displayed. I guess that’s weird for a Brooks collector to not like gloves, but just didn’t get the enjoyment out of them. Now a mint condition one, or game used may be a bit different.

Very cool snapshot by the way!

I also thought the glove/box might of been a piece that you had w/Brooks included. I guess not...

[docpatlv]

Mark,

I wish the glove & box was part of the collection. Unfortunately, the other Roberto/Brooks item I have is not on the same level as Mike’s glove/box, but it’s the only one I’ve ever seen.

[rats60]

This is a piece of original artwork that I bought from Topps back in 2001. It was a card of Roberto Clemente and one of our newest Hall of Famers, Vladamir Guerrero called "Latin Heat."

[docpatlv]

Rats,

Are you a Clemente collector also?

Day 26

Purchased this at a small local show and framed it myself. It is on heavy matte stock. Didn't know exactly what it was for years, but later learned that it was a poster for a telethon in the 70s. My example has had the telethon info cut out.

ca. early 1970s Pittsburgh Telethon Poster...

[71buc]

Originally Posted by docpatlv

Rats,

Are you a Clemente collector also?

Day 26

Purchased this at a small local show and framed it myself. It is on heavy matte stock. Didn't know exactly what it was for years, but later learned that it was a poster for a telethon in the 70s. My example has had the telethon info cut out.

ca. early 1970s Pittsburgh Telethon Poster...

I just picked this one up it measures 15x22. I didnt know it existed until seeing it in this thread. May 24th was a Sunday in 1970 and 1981. WPTT-TV 22 first date on the air was September 26, 1978. Based on that I dated it as 1981 item. I then I did a bit of research and came across the Mar 25, 1981 Valley Independent Newspaper. Do you recall the auction you mentioned that contained the other complete poster you mentioned? Thanks for a great thread Mike!

[hcv123]

Clemente Rookie PSA 9 - last 2 according to PSA sold for 468K and 478K respectively - last night - 260K
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

On the flip side an SGC 82 (6.5) sold for a whopping $8400!!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...=MyBids-101116

A PSA 8 Yellow letter also sold way below past sales.

A few other high grade copies - didn't check them all against previous prices yet


Thoughts?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Clemente Rookie PSA 9 - last 2 according to PSA sold for 468K and 478K respectively - last night - 260K
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

On the flip side an SGC 82 (6.5) sold for a whopping $8400!!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...=MyBids-101116

A PSA 8 Yellow letter also sold way below past sales.

A few other high grade copies - didn't check them all against previous prices yet


Thoughts?

That 9 was pretty far off centered. I would rather have my centered 8. I know those other two 9s that sold higher were much better centered. The Heritage at 478K was discussed at the time and many, including me, thought that it was better than the one 10. The 8 sold for 30k which is more than recent sales and it wasn't even that well centered.

Clemente RCs have come down from when they were hyped 2 summers ago (as have all the other hyped RCs), but centered copies are still going to bring strong prices. People that bought off centered ones the first half of 2016 are going to get crushed if they sell today. I believe people are looking at those old label cards and realizing that they wouldn't bring those grades today and paying less for them.

[Empty77]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Clemente Rookie PSA 9 - last 2 according to PSA sold for 468K and 478K respectively - last night - 260K
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

On the flip side an SGC 82 (6.5) sold for a whopping $8400!!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...=MyBids-101116

A PSA 8 Yellow letter also sold way below past sales.

A few other high grade copies - didn't check them all against previous prices yet


Thoughts?

Sorry I'm arriving to this late. I followed the high end stuff for this HA event fairly close myself. To flesh out your list:
-the '58 wht letter in 9 went for more than recent copies, including the same Slusser copy from two years ago
-ditto the '71 in 9, about 30% more than recently
-the more easily to achieve 9s came in right around their typical range it seemed to me
-the '72 and '73 10s came in more or less along the spectrum of the past couple years as well
-the '69 super 10 went for much more than 'recently', though this was the first recorded sale in 2 yrs
-to me the real surprise was the '57 T salesman panel, which went for much more than I would have guessed, in part since it has no registry value except bragging rights. True there are only 2 cited publicly, so the scarcity is interesting, but they're sort of ugly IMO, in that they're not 'real' issues, complicated by unrelated non-stars attached, back has nothing to do with the front, and I guess I'll stop there. That said, I bid on it myself, pretty hard, and was very much surprised to be pushed into giving up on it--I just really didn't expect that. And since you asked, my one thought/theory is that there could be a new player in town?

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Empty77

Sorry I'm arriving to this late. I followed the high end stuff for this HA event fairly close myself. To flesh out your list:
-the '58 wht letter in 9 went for more than recent copies, including the same Slusser copy from two years ago
-ditto the '71 in 9, about 30% more than recently
-the more easily to achieve 9s came in right around their typical range it seemed to me
-the '72 and '73 10s came in more or less along the spectrum of the past couple years as well
-the '69 super 10 went for much more than 'recently', though this was the first recorded sale in 2 yrs
-to me the real surprise was the '57 T salesman panel, which went for much more than I would have guessed, in part since it has no registry value except bragging rights. True there are only 2 cited publicly, so the scarcity is interesting, but they're sort of ugly IMO, in that they're not 'real' issues, complicated by unrelated non-stars attached, back has nothing to do with the front, and I guess I'll stop there. That said, I bid on it myself, pretty hard, and was very much surprised to be pushed into giving up on it--I just really didn't expect that. And since you asked, my one thought/theory is that there could be a new player in town?

That was me you were fighting with for the 57 panel!! I too wondered who the heck was on the "other side!" As I have expressed before, my collection is a lot more focused on the scarcity of an item than exactly how it fits into the registry. The only other copy of this 57 panel I have seen was purchased at auction years ago by Brian S. and was sold with his collection in 2016. That panel went for almost 3k when Brian sold it. The one Heritage just had although only graded "authentic" by PSA was in FAR superior condition. As I have been there many times, sorry to put you on the losing end of this one - but rest assured - it is in good hands.
There is a board member here who is very knowledgeable about the salesman panels and said that they are selling for a lot less now than they used to - even the Clemente with what I bought it for.
To me these things are WAY undervalued and underappreciated - With rare exception there are only 2-3 known of any given panel - rarer than many test issues and just as cool (imo). I picked up the 59 Mantle panel from REA also. I have the 1962 Clemente as well. All the best!

Howard

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I just picked this one up it measures 15x22. I didnt know it existed until seeing it in this thread. May 24th was a Sunday in 1970 and 1981. WPTT-TV 22 first date on the air was September 26, 1978. Based on that I dated it as 1981 item. I then I did a bit of research and came across the Mar 25, 1981 Valley Independent Newspaper. Do you recall the auction you mentioned that contained the other complete poster you mentioned? Thanks for a great thread Mike!

It looks like that was cut down to fit in the frame? I own a couple of these. I believe your research is on point.

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I just picked this one up it measures 15x22. I didnt know it existed until seeing it in this thread. May 24th was a Sunday in 1970 and 1981. WPTT-TV 22 first date on the air was September 26, 1978. Based on that I dated it as 1981 item. I then I did a bit of research and came across the Mar 25, 1981 Valley Independent Newspaper. Do you recall the auction you mentioned that contained the other complete poster you mentioned? Thanks for a great thread Mike!

Mike,

That poster ad looks very cool!

[docpatlv]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I just picked this one up it measures 15x22. I didnt know it existed until seeing it in this thread. May 24th was a Sunday in 1970 and 1981. WPTT-TV 22 first date on the air was September 26, 1978. Based on that I dated it as 1981 item. I then I did a bit of research and came across the Mar 25, 1981 Valley Independent Newspaper. Do you recall the auction you mentioned that contained the other complete poster you mentioned? Thanks for a great thread Mike!

Great poster Mike!!! I saw that one for sale, I made an offer but was declined. Glad to see you ended up with it. I don’t remember where the other full poster I saw Was auctioned at, I just saved a photo of it. Congrats again!


Day 202


1971 Topps Super...

[docpatlv]

Day 203


1968 Atlantic Oil...

[docpatlv]

Day 204


1972 Milton Bradley...

[Empty77]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I just picked this one up it measures 15x22. I didnt know it existed until seeing it in this thread. May 24th was a Sunday in 1970 and 1981. WPTT-TV 22 first date on the air was September 26, 1978. Based on that I dated it as 1981 item. I then I did a bit of research and came across the Mar 25, 1981 Valley Independent Newspaper.

FYI: Hunt has one right now, lot #282 finishing 7/9 in live format it seems, no bids yet.

[71buc]

I saw that one. It's has attracted some bidders as it's now at $520. That's almost twice what I paid for mine. It's hard to place a value on such items due to scarcity. It is a beautiful item if you are in to Clemente. I'm curious what it will bring in on Tuesday.

[docpatlv]

Michael & Mike,

It is a great poster, saw Mike post on the memorabilia side it's from 1981. Did not know that.

Speaking of posters, here's one from 2019. I just liked the way it looked. It's for The Clemente Museum block party. If you've never seen photos of the museum, its worth doing a search. He has some amazing Clemente items.

[Empty77]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I saw that one. It's has attracted some bidders as it's now at $520. That's almost twice what I paid for mine. It's hard to place a value on such items due to scarcity. It is a beautiful item if you are in to Clemente. I'm curious what it will bring in on Tuesday.

It is curious, since it had been live for days to weeks with no bids and a min bid of $100 if I recall, and then within a few hours of when I mentioned it here, it's up to $500...makes it appear I'm plugging it or have something invested in the outcome...which I don't other than it finds a good home. When I saw the lot I remembered the pic from this thread and the discussion that it was scarce and thought it worth mentioning in case one of the few dedicated readers here was on the lookout for one.

Also curious, and I may be wrong here, but I could swear that the lot description said "circa 1970s" yesterday before my post, and the reason I remember is because I chuckled to myself about it, knowing the discussion in this thread. Now the lot description reads "circa 1980s", which still hedges, but it certainly seems like someone from Hunts is scanning this forum (or a reader alerted them) and bothered to edit the write-up. Kudos to them for that. Too often the AH's don't bother to clarify mistakes pointed out to them, presumably when the original is perceived to be in their favor.

[rats60]

I have been collecting Clemente for over 40 years.

[71buc]

Very cool poster Mike that's the same image on the pin Howard posted in #15. That's the first time I have seen that item. What size is it? I am certain being on the West Coast has limited my access to such items. Thanks for sharing it.

[docpatlv]

Thanks Mike. It measures approximately 15x16 but has had the top and bottom border cut off that contained telethon info. I have only seen one other, which was complete and auctioned 10+ years ago. That’s how I found out it’s origin.

I do live on the east coast and I think It definitely helped finding items 10-15 years ago at small shows and also bigger shows such as the old Ft. Washington show (now the Philly show). But shows have gone the way of the dinosaur, even the Philly show, to me, is a shell of it’s former self.

[docpatlv]

Day 27

One of the few pieces of original artwork that I have.

1990 Leon Wolf original oil painting on canvas...

[71buc]

Very pretty it would look great on black velvet

[docpatlv]

Day 28

Tough to find April 9, 1973 Roberto's Youth City Benefit Concert Ticket...