What is the origin of Frank Thomas NNOF?

[West]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

I completely agree but the answer is out there somewhere. The cards have been out for 27+ years now and there is only maybe 100-200 of them. I am beginning to think that they may not have come out of packs and could have easily been found in a Topps scrap pile....just a thought.

Moreover, if there was over 100 finds so far, why is there no written account of a pull from a pack/set type of medium?

The Bush-Yale card never came from packs....

If possible, someone please cite an exact documented account of a true NNOF find.

You really need to take the time to read through the comments on this thread which summarize nearly all of the public knowledge of this card. Your questions above have actually already been answered.

I will echo what Rich said. As I mentioned before, they were found only in wax packs. I have spoken to several people who can attest to this directly, not to mention the person in the CU boards who pulled 5 of them and documented it in that thread. As for population, there are already some 250-275 graded NNOF and I estimated the original print run at 400-1000.

[lowpopper]

I am currently on page 11 of 21 on the long CU thread...wish there was a spark notes version.

[lowpopper]

OK I read the whole thing.

The CU board reports various Blackless errors coming from "retail wax packs" and "holiday factory sets". The only claims specifically for the orange sheet errors have been from the wax however.

I cracked open a holiday set and I can confirm there are blackless examples in there. I found these:


Sheet A


Sheet B

[swarmee]

You could ask the Tim Wallach hoarder whether or not they have additional "blackless" 1990 cards. He has about 500 of them.
http://timwallach.blogspot.com/2011/02/1990-topps.html

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

There is a confirmed source. To the person that said no one would be posting it on a message board, you are correct.

Arthur

[ALR-bishop]

The Wallach collector's address is a legal office. Wonder if his firm specializes in Monopoly defense work.

Arthur-- is it true that the confirmed source is on Red Reddington's Blacklist ?