I am hopeful, what do you guys think? T205 Speaker

[MVSNYC]

Leon, you might remember, I acquired your T206 Cy Young Port, Hindu. He's safe & sound with me.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Leon, you might remember, I acquired your T206 Cy Young Port, Hindu. He's safe & sound with me.

Good deal. What a great card that is.

[xplainer]

ELAINE: Hey Leon did you buy that card knowing that green dot was on it because you could get it at a discount?

LEON: What? Did I what?

ELAINE: You did didn't you.

LEON: Elaine, I'm, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Here I go out in the spirit of the season (Elaine looking like she's not buying a word of it) and spend all my savings to buy you a most beautiful Christmas baseball card, I have ever seen, to show my appreciation to you at Christmas, and this is the thanks that I get, at Christmas.

ELAINE: Well Jerry told me that you did.

LEON : You told her? How could you tell her? I told you not to say anything.

JERRY: I didn't tell her you stupid idiot. She tricked you.

LEON: Elaine you don't understand. I had 103 temperature when I bought that card. I was so dizzy I was seeing green dots everywhere. I thought everything in the store had a green dot on it. I couldn't distinguish one green dot from another. I couldn't afford anything. I have nothing. I haven't worked for a really long time. (Jerry is standing right behind Leon. Jerry takes out a hankerchief and starts fake-crying in it.) I mean look, I have no clothes, look at what I'm wearing. It's just a little grren dot.

[bobbvc]

I would have voted 2.5 if the option was available.

[CW]

Maybe the back appears to have staining or scrapbook residue, which might make it a 3? I think the horrible contrast setting on the scan is making the back look much worse than it really is.

Maybe the chipping at the corners (standard for T205s with corner wear) is viewed by some here as paper loss, so they're knocking it down to 3 or less? Just guessing here.

If a card with no creases and corners like this is viewed as a 3 or below, then I think the hobby's grading scale has become too tough. To me, this is a VG-EX 4 all day long. Even the centering and registration are top notch.

[barrysloate]

I said 4. Now you just need for a grader to agree. That's the tough part.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I said 4. Now you just need for a grader to agree. That's the tough part.

I hear you, Barry. Unfortunately what could barely be seen online is a tiny blue ink mark on the bottom edge, right front corner. My guess is it will be an AUT because of that and a return to the seller. If it were somewhere else it might just be an errant mark and only a slight downgrade, which I could live with. But as I told the seller in a message on ebay, that is the worst possible place to have a mark on a gold border. I am going to have another set of better eyes look at it for me but that is the expectation.

[Joe Hunter]

Leon: I would just return it to the seller. The mark is visually hard to pick up in the scan and should have been mentioned in the description.

[xplainer]

I really think a 3 or 4. This issue is known for fragile borders and corners.
I see no real problems with this card.
Just me, and I am not a grader though.