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Old 01-01-2018, 05:53 AM
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It's not just raw data; you can see pictures of 90% of the cards by going to the link. Centering did not seem to be a big deal (wide variance) on the cards I'm pointing out. I realize that not every 9 is a strong 9. But when a 9 varies from $30-300 over the course of a year, that is a BIG swing.
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:12 PM
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1961 Topps #350 Ernie Banks PSA 9: There are 49 no qualifier PSA 9s in the current Pop Report, out of approx 2000 submitted. Of those, 21 unique certs are in the database as having sold. Only two have sold twice. I am sure there are many more validated sales in VCP, since they have a longer eBay auction history.

One five months apart by PWCC both times (consignor lost $100), and one 7 years apart by Mile High (consignor made $50, which probably translates to a loss due to BP).

In the span of one month in 2007, this card lost $1220, or two thirds of its value. It went from $1826 w/BP in Goodwin to $609 w/BP in Memory Lane.
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BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:45 PM
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Default Problem with eBay auctions.

So here's an example that I can attest to. A guy had two Koufax cards listed I was interested in. A 62 and 66. I made an offer for the two cards. He agreed and lowered one of the cards to meet the pricing we agreed to. However eBay was doing 10% bucks on a min purchase of $50. Anyways I ended up paying the agreed upon amount for the two cards on just the 66 listing. So now that 66 Koufax is overstated by a good $35. Not sure why eBay doesn't just do min purchase by seller. I personally like to keep the price history of the auctions. But why would I settle for $0.78 bucks versus $7.80.
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:59 PM
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If you know which card it is, you can report it to them as a sale of multiple cards and they will remove it.
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JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:45 AM
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If you know which card it is, you can report it to them as a sale of multiple cards and they will remove it.
I'll do that. Cards are set to arrive today. Once I receive and confirm everything I'll contact them.

Thanks Steve
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:47 PM
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Thanks for the thread. I've done a little looking around and have seen some differences when comparing recent results between the PSA and VCP databases. One example is 1966 Topps Mantle. PSA's auction prices show two recent sales of $130 & $145 on PSA 4's. VCP doesn't show either of those sales. Both were on Ebay in the month of December. On the flip side, PSA missed a $112 sale also in December.

So I ask, how good can VCP be if it is missing sales, regardless of whether they are high or low? I also know that while VCP indicates in their FAQ that their database is updated almost immediately, I have seen sometimes a few weeks before a card I sold appears.

If these are software programs tied to ebay, how can their be such variances?

Lastly, I also noted a much higher price on another card (I don't remember which one it was) on PSA's new page and noticed it was a 7 rather than a 4 or 5. So if you see something that looks out of the norm, be sure to click and actually view the original ebay listing with pictures.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:31 PM
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Here's an interesting downgrade.
1933 Goudey #3 Hugh Critz. Cert #01103184

Sold in 2005 as a PSA 7 at Memory Lane
https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/bidplace?itemid=535

Currently shows up in database as PSA 4.5
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PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
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