Morris & Trammell Elected to HOF

[SAllen2556]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

With regard to wins as a stat.

Tell me which year this pitcher had more wins. Same pitcher. Same team. Consecutive years.

Year 1:

Team wins: 99
Pitcher ERA 3.00
Home runs allowed: 13
WHIP: 1.28
FIP: 3.46
Innings: 210

Year 2:

Team wins: 103
Pitcher ERA: 2.95
Home runs allowed: 26
WHIP: 1.23
FIP: 4.19
Innings: 238

Did the pitcher have:

A lot more wins in year 1?
A few more wins in year 1?
The same number of wins both years?
A few more wins in year 2?
A lot more wins in year 2?

Explain your answer.

I'd say he won a lot more in year 2 - like 10 more wins maybe. My explanation: I looked it up.

Yes, Morris is borderline at best, but you can use statistics to prove just about anything. Just ask my kids why it's statistically in my best interest to pay 25 grand a year for each of them to go to the University of Michigan vs. a college that costs less than half that.

[ejharrington]

For all the talk of the HOF being watered down, there have been only 222 players (excludes managers, Negro leaguers, and pioneers) out of approximately 19,000 historical MLB players over 148 years, or like 1%, that have made it. To me, that is pretty exclusive.

[nickedson]

I had the pleasure of covering the Tigers during the careers of Trammell and Morris. Trammell, in my mind, was a Hall of Famer... as was Lou Whitaker, who I think will eventually get in. I'm told that what put Morris over the top Sunday was the fact he was the winningest pitcher of the 1980s and won three World Series rings. I agree that Ted Simmons and Dale Murphy should get in. But my biggest beef with the Hall of Fame is that Marvin Miller hasn't gotten in.

[triwak]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

For all the talk of the HOF being watered down, there have been only 222 players (excludes managers, Negro leaguers, and pioneers) out of approximately 19,000 historical MLB players over 148 years, or like 1%, that have made it. To me, that is pretty exclusive.

+1

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I'd say he won a lot more in year 2 - like 10 more wins maybe. My explanation: I looked it up.

Yes, Morris is borderline at best, but you can use statistics to prove just about anything. Just ask my kids why it's statistically in my best interest to pay 25 grand a year for each of them to go to the University of Michigan vs. a college that costs less than half that.

Gah! Forgot to say not to cheat!!

[insidethewrapper]

All Hall of Fames have the same problems. If you compare the top to the rest, the rest don't stand up. In music, you have Elvis , The Beatles and a few others,all the rest are a joke .