Stanton to the yankees

[KCRfan1]

Matty,

Great information!

Congrats on the Stanton rookie, and what should be a fun season in the Bronx!

[bxb]

Last year the Yankees were one win away from the World Series.

Add Stanton, if he stays healthy, and some of those 2-1 losses to Houston disappear.

They will now be favorites to win the pennant.

They should re-sign Sabathia as well.

[sycks22]

Nobody has talked about how the Yanks apparently don't want to be in on the Harper craziness that's coming after this season. Stanton's .268 career avg doesn't scare anyone?

[frankbmd]

I really do not mean to disparage anyone, but have an alternative view of competition that is independent of the size of a team's wallet and more power to the Yankees in their acquisition of Stanton. May they hit 300 home runs this year and win 130 games.

However I love underdogs. Consider 2008 when the value of the Yankees in terms of payroll was roughly $286,000,000. In the same year the value of the Red Sox' payroll was roughly $160,000,000. They finished second and third in their division. And who won the division and made it to the World Series?

Joe Maddon and the boys from the "Trop", whose aggregate value in 2008 was $65,000,000, which was less than the salary of three Yankees that year (ARod, Giambi and Jeter).

With a salary less than 25% of the pinstripers they prevailed. The obstacles facing small market teams over an 162 game season are nearly insurmountable. The inability to retain their young "stars" is a virtual certainty. The folks in Tampa Bay, Milwaukee and Houston for that matter need dictionaries to look up the word "dynasty". It doesn't happen very often to be sure, but to realize that they can win even one pennant is an accomplishment far greater than another pennant added by a big market team from New York, Los Angeles, Boston or Chicago.

I grew up in New York in the days of Willie, Mickey and the Duke. My bias was probably influenced by the "underdog" Giants in 1954 when they swept the 111 win Indians in the World Series. Between 1947 and 1963 only 4 teams other than the Dodgers or the Yankees won the World Series. Milwaukee winning in '57 and Pittsburgh winning in '60 was good for baseball I maintain.

The playing fields were tilted then favoring big market teams and they still are and I can accept that. But give me an underdog that is making a run in the middle of the season and that's my team.

[packs]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Nobody has talked about how the Yanks apparently don't want to be in on the Harper craziness that's coming after this season. Stanton's .268 career avg doesn't scare anyone?

There's no guarantee the Yankees would get Harper and they're paying Stanton less money than they would have paid Harper. How can you say the Yankees have a bad history of big money signings and then bring up Harper? If the Yankees didn't get Stanton when they could, and for basically nothing, they'd be rolling the dice on Harper. Everyone thought the Yankees were Ohtani favorites and they didn't even get a meeting.

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by packs

There's no guarantee the Yankees would get Harper and they're paying Stanton less money than they would have paid Harper. How can you say the Yankees have a bad history of big money signings and then bring up Harper? If the Yankees didn't get Stanton when they could, and for basically nothing, they'd be rolling the dice on Harper. Everyone thought the Yankees were Ohtani favorites and they didn't even get a meeting.

I guess 243m is basically nothing for a guy that only hits home runs

[brian1961]

Hooray for the Bronx Bombers. Once again they strike for the jugular of who might become available that could help them. After all, they did contemplate the liabilities of one George Herman Ruth. Guess the chap was tough to manage and control, erratic, but Ed Barrow had converted him to an outfielder, and he managed to break the major league single season home run record. They went out on a limb, and took a chance the limb wouldn't break. Guess Red Sox owner Harry Frazee needed a lot of dough to cover some shows that went bust, anyway.

Oh, ya heard this one?

Not surprised. But just sayin' --- sometimes taking a chance goes even better than what you figure.

Anyway, I'm sure the Yanks' medical team will see what they can do to keep him healthy, wealthy, and wise. ---Brian Powell

[Fred]

Not sure how this is at all "good for baseball". However, kudos to the Yanks ownership for taking a big step towards going deeper and deeper into the post season. I guess more than anything I'm jealous of New Yorkers because they have ownership that seems to give a damn about winning.

[packs]

Originally Posted by sycks22

I guess 243m is basically nothing for a guy that only hits home runs

I think you're forgetting that this was a trade and not a signing. When I said they gave up basically nothing I was talking about the players they traded.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Nobody has talked about how the Yanks apparently don't want to be in on the Harper craziness that's coming after this season. Stanton's .268 career avg doesn't scare anyone?

I've watched him for 8 years. This past year was incredible, and he may have figured it out, but I've always thought he was severely overrated nationally. As I mentioned before, most people only see his highlights on sportscenter because they aren't watching Marlins games. He is the king of the one-run homerun. You can blame his teammates for not getting on base if you want, but I've seen him strikeout with men on base one too many times to buy into that argument. Having have said all that, it will be fun watching him in a lineup with Judge and Sanchez, and I wish him luck. For years before I had the Marlins, I rooted for the Yankees because all their games were broadcast in Miami. I'm just telling you guys my view of Stanton from a guy who has watched hundreds of his games.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Nobody has talked about how the Yanks apparently don't want to be in on the Harper craziness that's coming after this season. Stanton's .268 career avg doesn't scare anyone?

As a Boston fan, I am quite fine with both of these facts.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Nobody has talked about how the Yanks apparently don't want to be in on the Harper craziness that's coming after this season. Stanton's .268 career avg doesn't scare anyone?

+1...I hear you Pete...Yankees won't win 90 games next year...

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Stanton's .268 career avg doesn't scare anyone?

More important than just the .268 career avg, is his .261 inter-league avg. He has a tOPS+ of 77 in inter-league. tOPS+ measures a players OPS for any given split compared to that player's overall average. 100 is the baseline, anything below that shows that he is below average in that split. So he drops below average when playing in the AL, yet he chose to go to the AL.

Based on his stats, and the teams pursuing him, I believe he would have been better served going to the Giants. He has a tOPS+ of 125 at ATT Park over his career. In 2017 it was his best park with a tOPS+ of 387.

[packs]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

More important than just the .268 career avg, is his .261 inter-league avg. He has a tOPS+ of 77 in inter-league. tOPS+ measures a players OPS for any given split compared to that player's overall average. 100 is the baseline, anything below that shows that he is below average in that split. So he drops below average when playing in the AL, yet he chose to go to the AL.

Based on his stats, and the teams pursuing him, I believe he would have been better served going to the Giants. He has a tOPS+ of 125 at ATT Park over his career. In 2017 it was his best park with a tOPS+ of 387.

Why would he leave Miami to go to another basement team? The Giants aren't going to be good again for a long time, maybe long enough that Stanton misses his entire prime.