My Gamble for the night

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

How do you think I did? He mistakenly listed it as Philadelphia, I checked with him before bidding and it is indeed Pittsburgh. The first back image is in a sleeve that has residue of some sort of writing on it, the second is cleaner. Looks like a decent card and frankly anything better than authentic is a profit. he hasn't done cards before but he has sold a number of items ranging up to $1000 so it looked like a risk worth taking. He also agreed to expedite shipping so hopefully I'll have it at Valley Forge. Love me some T200s! Little worried that the upper left corner (in his pictures) is recolored, but frankly I'd emery that off down to paper again if I had to as the rest of it is so clean.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-T200-F...vip=true&rt=nc

Cool card and I like the honesty.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Cool card and I like the honesty.

I've done this before on recolored T205's. It certainly damages the card, but it gets rid of the offending color. I think of it as accelerated wear. Does anyone think this is unacceptable? To me it's even less egregious than soaking as it isn't really improving the card, if anything you risk significantly lowering the grade, I just can't stand recoloring. Thoughts?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I've done this before on recolored T205's. It certainly damages the card, but it gets rid of the offending color. I think of it as accelerated wear. Does anyone think this is unacceptable? To me it's even less egregious than soaking as it isn't really improving the card, if anything you risk significantly lowering the grade, I just can't stand recoloring. Thoughts?

Thoughts

If you are keeping the card and the recoloring makes you puke when you look at it, then maybe okay.

But if you are altering the card for resale, folks might have a problem with that.
They might wonder also about other cards you are selling. Personally I would leave the emery paper in the drawer.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Interesting, so removing an alteration intended to defraud, resulting in damage to the card is unacceptable to you. I would assume you are anti-soak as well then? Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'm not just looking for agreement.

I have only ever sold two cards that I "worked" on and both were disclosed. One was a T205 where I sanded off a recolor and I soaked a T206.

[OldOriole]

I'm OK with removing anything from a card that was not originally intended to be there. This includes recoloring, paper from a scrapbook, etc. There are many opinions, but to me you are just returning it to it's original state and you aren't adding anything to the card.

I'm against adding color, trimming, etc. as these practices are not attempting to return the card to its original state.

[Chuck]

Are the 13x21 photos of the team still out there? And if so, how much do they go for? (Sorry, new collector)

Has anyone ever reprinted the larger photos? They would make great display pieces for the wall.

Chuck Darrah

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Funny even though I've owned T200's before this was the first time I was wondering the same thing. I certainly have never seen one, but they must be out there somewhere. Anyone have one to share an image?

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by Chuck

Are the 13x21 photos of the team still out there? And if so, how much do they go for? (Sorry, new collector)

Has anyone ever reprinted the larger photos? They would make great display pieces for the wall.

Chuck Darrah

The premium photos are out there and come up for sale on occasion through the larger auction houses. Price wise, at a minimum I would say $2500, but more realistically, your probably looking at closer $5k for one in decent shape. I believe Huggins had one in the fall/summer sometime.

DJ

[OldOriole]

You're right, there was one (New York Giants) in the Huggins & Scott auction that just ended. No bids, but a very rare piece...

http://nov17.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=21975

[3-2-count]

Here you go... (link below)

http://nov17.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=21975

[Bill77]

I think the corner is just creased and catching the light at a different angle than the rest of the card.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Bill77

I think the corner is just creased and catching the light at a different angle than the rest of the card.

And obviously that's what I'm hoping for. I don't WANT it to be recolored!

[ccre]

I've got a Phila Americans Premium. Won it about a year ago for what I thought was a fairly low price. It's in rough shape though. Had it framed so it looks presentable now.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Awesome.

Hoped to have my new acquisition at Philly, but alas it may not be there until Sunday.