E 90-1 The Caramel Monster

[Yoda]

There is a reasonable Joss throwing/horizontal, always a tough E90-1 card to find in any shape, on LTGA. Don't know if you have one or not but worth a look. The Mitchell is doable. Several around in recent months either on Ebay or AH's. about $2.000 for a graded vg. Good luck on a tough but fascinating set.

[Cozumeleno]

Great idea - I'm at 53 with little effort. I am working towards a set but very passively at this point. I got to about 60 simply buying cards when I could within the price I wanted and have some of the tougher commons/HOFs.

I think a 'wall' might come a little earlier than 100. I've probably seen about 30 others that I could have had with a little more money. The others are out there but harder to find. I guess it depends what the definition of 'wall' is.

[puckpaul]

i love this set after buying the Mitchell years ago and a handful of others in a clean Sweep Auction that i thought were really cool and reasonable (love the Speaker!). but can't decide if i want to take the plunge on starting to think about the whole set, as the market is so heated now and i know the big ones are going to cost... waiting. maybe if get a large group lot.

[Fistner10]

I started earlier this year and love it so far. I’m only at about 35 and they’re probably the easiest ones. I need to do more research on easy vs. hard so if you have the old thread handy I’d appreciate the link!

[rainier2004]

Seems like the Lax would be a deal breaker, so pricey and the lipstick pose and all...seems tough. How many e90 Jax are there?

[familytoad]

Originally Posted by Fistner10

I started earlier this year and love it so far. I’m only at about 35 and they’re probably the easiest ones. I need to do more research on easy vs. hard so if you have the old thread handy I’d appreciate the link!

Here’s one of the old threads I mentioned.
11years ago!


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=Caramel

[qed2190]

I have about 50 with a few dupes, Brian if you want to shoot me an email, Larry

[brianp-beme]

Ok, I'm game. I have always wanted to imitate/compete/improve upon Frank and his Monster. I have been on and contributed to this board since it was created, and was on the old Full Count board before that, so I definitely have the hobby stamina required to maintain such a thread, just like Frank has. I have always loved the E90-1 set, and have collected it off and on for over 25 years. Of course since the E90-1 set has nowhere near the popularity of the T206 set, the views will pale in comparison to the Monster thread, but I think the E90-1 issue has enough of following and is full of varying scarcities that are still being determined that I think it will at least keep a portion of the Net54'ers interested.

Of course if I do this I want to name the thread, which would be "E90-1, The Kraken (AKA the E-Monster). And I will establish the point system, which will be a little more enlarged and elaborate than the T206 Monster version (I mean, all Ty Cobb cards count as 1 point...ouch!). Admittedly, Frank's simple formula has widespread appeal, but why not try something different for this very different and much smaller set? Here is the point system I propose for the 121 E90-1 cards (with the recently cataloged Miller w/sunset increasing the complete set up from 120 cards)
:

20 Joe Jackson

10 Honus Wagner (throwing)
10 Tris Speaker

7 Ty Cobb
7 Hugh Duffy
7 Mike Mitchell
7 Honus Wagner (batting)
7 Cy Young (Cleveland)

4 Fred Clarke (Pittsburgh)
4 Willie Keeler (red)
4 Christy Mathewson
4 Eddie Plank
4 Ed Walsh
4 Cy Young (Boston)

3 Bob Bescher
3 Patsy Dougherty
3 George Gibson (back)
3 Peaches Graham
3 Ed Karger
3 Willie Keeler (throwing)
3 Addie Joss (throwing)
3 Nap Lajoie
3 Tommy Leach (throwing)
3 Hans Lobert
3 Larry McLean
3 Dots Miller (sunset)
3 Dave Shean
3 Jake Stahl
3 George Stone (left hand showing)
3 Bill Sweeney (Boston)
3 Jerry Upp

1 each for the rest of the 90 cards

A complete set would thus be 240 points


I have given point values based mainly on popularity with a good dose of perceived scarcity thrown in, giving a nod to traditionally acknowledged scarcities and tossing in a few common players that have been revealed in the recent years as being tougher/more desirable. I decided to include the 14 commons worth 3 points each with the understanding that there are another dozen or so candidates that might be included, but didn't want this thing to get too cumbersome. Likewise various other Hall of Famers count as 1 point, but most of these are either pretty common or not as popular.

Let me know what you think about all this and what you think about my point system (as potential Kraken master I will listen to suggestions, but of course I get the final say like any good E-Monster would). If I get enough encouragement to proceed, I will start an official thread for folks to post their E-Monster score.

Brian