Could be the first 1955 Mascot Dog Food Cards of Mantle and Berra. Any Info?

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Leon

One would think that any TPG could look at the previous cards, compare, and grade these. I understand they want to be careful but if they can hold one of these in their hands, with all of their equipment they have and not be able to tell if it is real or not, then I am not sure what to say. Pathetic?

They are finicky about grading new items for some reason. I have one card that is catalogued (it's a multi sport set) in a legitimate hockey card guide and they refuse. The kicker is that the photo of my exact Mantle card was even used as the illustration in the book. It's frustrating to say the least, especially when it makes such a substantial difference in the price of the item to the general market.

[Rich Klein]

Back in the day when I was at Beckett, there would be cards that PSA would not grade until Beckett listed them. It had to do with information paucity.

Personally, I would contact Joe at PSA (or whomever you are comfortable with) and send a link of this thread so they have a ton of relevant information.

Believe it or not, most of the people involved in the hobby in positions such as that do not read and memorize every single thread on Net 54

Rich

[chuckw]

Beckett's vintage graders were able to do research, grade the cards, and add the cards and brand to their catalogue and database!! Also, there is a lot of speculation that these cards were made in 1951 or 1952 (Beckett labeled the cards as "1950s Mascot Dog Food" cards). Check out the Yogi Berra card - it is the photo that was used to create the 1950 Bowman Yogi Berra card! Thanks Beckett!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by chuckw

Beckett's vintage graders were able to do research, grade the cards, and add the cards and brand to their catalogue and database!! Also, there is a lot of speculation that these cards were made in 1951 or 1952 (Beckett labeled the cards as "1950s Mascot Dog Food" cards). Check out the Yogi Berra card - it is the photo that was used to create the 1950 Bowman Yogi Berra card! Thanks Beckett!

Now that you got Beckett to slab them are you going to try to cross them over to PSA?

[swarmee]

Great update. Congrats on getting them authenticated by Beckett.

[chuckw]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Now that you got Beckett to slab them are you going to try to cross them over to PSA?

I don't think I will cross them over. I'm happy that they are slabbed and since I appreciate that Beckett did work to research and catalogue them, they deserve to be in Beckett holders for a while! I'm also pleasantly surprised to hear that they may be from 1951 or 1952, which would really make the Mantle even more amazing. A first to the market Mantle card from his Rookie era!

A lot of people have been making very nice offers, which are sincerely appreciated, but if anything, the two cards would go to auction. I will keep everyone posted.

[bswhiten]

The Mantle image looks like the same one used on the 51 Wheaties premium... I believe I read the image was taken from the 52 world series, but someone else may know more about that.

[chuckw]

Originally Posted by bswhiten

The Mantle image looks like the same one used on the 51 Wheaties premium... I believe I read the image was taken from the 52 world series, but someone else may know more about that.

Good catch Ben - the Mantle is the same pose as the 1951 Wheaties Premium. It looks like the Mascot Dog food card is the original photo, and they added pinstripes to his jersey for the Wheaties premium card (old school Photoshop work! ... hand drawn back then). So the 2 Mascot Dog Food cards that I have were the original photos used to make the 1950 Bowman Yogi Berra and the 1951 Wheaties Premium cards. This helps direct me to think what I heard from Beckett - that they believe the Mascot cards are most likely from 1951 or 1952. Has anyone seen the Mascot image of Robin Roberts used in another card from the early 1950s? The Roberts card was the image I showed from the think vintage catalogue from SCD.
Thanks Ben.