Value of George Brett 3000th hit lineup cards

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

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Scott,

I came and asked for opinions. Can't ask for anything more than a perspective that is developed, and some really nice scans of other lineup cards.

I do tend to think the value is higher (can't say it for certain, but I did pay more than that...) for a few reasons:

1) Top copy vs. carbon copy. As a general rule, the top copy often sells for multiples of a carbon copy. (A really extreme example, was from Heritage back a decade ago when they sold both the top copy and carbon copy of Game 7 of the 1960 World Series. The top copy sold for $5300 and the carbon copy went for $260.)

2) While Rose is the hit leader, he is not in the Hall of Fame and from what I have seen, Brett has a stronger following. (I'm not an expert on either player, but that is what it seems like to me.)

Also, here are some other milestone games and prices I've tracked:

• Spahn 300th win carbon copy - $4,060
• Molitor 3000th hit $2005 (auction also included a game used bat, which seems to be roughly a $500 item)
• Rose 4192 hit (dugout wall) - $11,400
• Griffey 500th homer - $1,600 (this is shockingly low to me)
• Gary Carter most games by catcher - $717
• Ripken ties consecutive game record - $3,258
• Ripken sets consecutive game record - $15,405
  

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Scott,

I came and asked for opinions. Can't ask for anything more than a perspective that is developed, and some really nice scans of other lineup cards.

I do tend to think the value is higher (can't say it for certain, but I did pay more than that...) for a few reasons:

1) Top copy vs. carbon copy. As a general rule, the top copy often sells for multiples of a carbon copy. (A really extreme example, was from Heritage back a decade ago when they sold both the top copy and carbon copy of Game 7 of the 1960 World Series. The top copy sold for $5300 and the carbon copy went for $260.)

2) While Rose is the hit leader, he is not in the Hall of Fame and from what I have seen, Brett has a stronger following. (I'm not an expert on either player, but that is what it seems like to me.)

Also, here are some other milestone games and prices I've tracked:

• Spahn 300th win carbon copy - $4,060
• Molitor 3000th hit $2005 (auction also included a game used bat, which seems to be roughly a $500 item)
• Rose 4192 hit (dugout wall) - $11,400
• Griffey 500th homer - $1,600 (this is shockingly low to me)
• Gary Carter most games by catcher - $717
• Ripken ties consecutive game record - $3,258
• Ripken sets consecutive game record - $15,405
  

Thanks Jeff,
I'm in agreement that there is no doubt that original copies of lineup cards should carry a heavy premium over carbon copies. For this reason I really have never collected the carbon copies.
Thanks for providing the comparison prices which are helpful.

That being said, I believe that the $1500 price of the Molitor 3,000th hit game is a very good measuring stick (excluding the GU bat) as a first glance.
I'm curious if this Molitor auction had both home and visiting umpire lineup cards like you have for Brett. Obviously this would have a major bearing on valuation. Both Brett & Molitor are HOF'er 3,000 hit guys although I would definitely give the edge to Brett on popularity.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Thanks Jeff,
I'm in agreement that there is no doubt that original copies of lineup cards should carry a heavy premium over carbon copies. For this reason I really have never collected the carbon copies.
Thanks for providing the comparison prices which are helpful.

That being said, I believe that the $1500 price of the Molitor 3,000th hit game is a very good measuring stick (excluding the GU bat) as a first glance.
I'm curious if this Molitor auction had both home and visiting umpire lineup cards like you have for Brett. Obviously this would have a major bearing on valuation. Both Brett & Molitor are HOF'er 3,000 hit guys although I would definitely give the edge to Brett on popularity.

I checked back and it was actually the dugout card, so it may not be the best comparison. (It also sold from Collect Auctions, which is definitely not an auction house I hear mentioned a lot). Link is below.

I have no plans on selling it. I believe it is the most significant game card (I also have the Braves lineup card from Glavine's first win and carbon copies from Niekro's 300th win, along with some WS line-up cards from the 90's.) I certainly paid the most.

http://www.collectauctions.com/paul_...-lot12032.aspx

edit: Just came across the Young dugout lineup card which went for a hair under $2k at a Mears auction. Not sure how to compare the dugout lineup cards with the manager versions though...

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...-lot60902.aspx

[Scott Garner]

Thanks Jeff, as that's also helpful info on the Yount and Molitor 3,000th dugout cards.

I couldn't help but get a chuckle at the Mears description of the Yount dugout card. Yount is "the most revered player in Brewers history" yet the team unceremoniously tossed the 3,000th hit dugout card as yesterday's trash. If not for a clubhouse worker that recognized the historic nature of this game and pulling the crumpled dugout card from a trash can, it would have been lost for eternity...
Today, the same dugout card would be immediately sold for big bucks after a MLB hologram was affixed to it.

As I previously mentioned, I really like your Brett 3,000th hit cards & think it's cool that you added them to your collection. Congrats!

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Thanks Jeff, as that's also helpful info on the Yount and Molitor 3,000th dugout cards.

I couldn't help but get a chuckle at the Mears description of the Yount dugout card. Yount is "the most revered player in Brewers history" yet the team unceremoniously tossed the 3,000th hit dugout card as yesterday's trash. If not for a clubhouse worker that recognized the historic nature of this game and pulling the crumpled dugout card from a trash can, it would have been lost for eternity...
Today, the same dugout card would be immediately sold for big bucks after a MLB hologram was affixed to it.

As I previously mentioned, I really like your Brett 3,000th hit cards & think it's cool that you added them to your collection. Congrats!

so true!!

Here's from Niekro's 300th win:

[Dewey2007]

Nick pickup on the Brett 3000th hit lineup card! You'll need to get a ticket stub from that game now to pair with it.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Dewey2007

Nick pickup on the Brett 3000th hit lineup card! You'll need to get a ticket stub from that game now to pair with it.

There are signed baseballs from both Brett's 3000th hit game and Niekro's 300th win on Heritage now which a part of me wants to go for, but I try to keep the collection focused since funds are far from unlimited.

Would be cool though, and I can't imagine it would be incredibly expensive to find a Brett ticket since it was pretty recent.