Mickey Mantle baseball, any reason to think this is a fake?

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

You know, I'm gonna piss a bunch of people off with this post, but what the hell...
I don't understand all the "I'm not an expert, but I think..." posts.
Why?
Basically, they say "I don't know what the fu*k I'm talking about, so what I'm adding to the conversation really has little or no value."
If you don't feel your opinion is more educated than most, there's no point in posting.
Trying to determine authenticity is not a popularity contest amongst the "hoi polloi." It does not come down to the number of votes.

People post here, particularly, because they're looking for expert advice or opinion.
Otherwise, they might as well just set up a poll.

thanks for posting what i bet many people think

[Sladge34]

Not too sure why everyone got upset. As everyone knows, unless you see a ball signed in person, you'll never really know if it's real or not. You can get respectable opinions, but there's always a chance people's opinion's are wrong. I think the more, the merrier. I posted that ball over a year ago, and was very thankful for all the input. I did my research and realized most of you guys on here are as good, if not better than the big 3. I reposted the ball because of one of the earlier threads about a Mantle ball that did not get authenticated by jsa, even tho people on here gave it the thumbs up. The picture may have been blurry, but enough people said it was good, espicially some of the really good guys on here. So to see the ball get rejected by jsa, then people say it's bad, kind of made me think again maybe my ball isn't real. If you think I wasted your time, sorry. But I thought this site was about talking baseball autographs, pretty sure I was within the topic...

[mattjc1983]

Originally Posted by Sladge34

Not too sure why everyone got upset. As everyone knows, unless you see a ball signed in person, you'll never really know if it's real or not. You can get respectable opinions, but there's always a chance people's opinion's are wrong. I think the more, the merrier. I posted that ball over a year ago, and was very thankful for all the input. I did my research and realized most of you guys on here are as good, if not better than the big 3. I reposted the ball because of one of the earlier threads about a Mantle ball that did not get authenticated by jsa, even tho people on here gave it the thumbs up. The picture may have been blurry, but enough people said it was good, espicially some of the really good guys on here. So to see the ball get rejected by jsa, then people say it's bad, kind of made me think again maybe my ball isn't real. If you think I wasted your time, sorry. But I thought this site was about talking baseball autographs, pretty sure I was within the topic...

But as Richard mentioned UDA is much different than JSA...I’m not annoyed because I didn’t contribute, but I can see why others are.

Also, I agree with what was said earlier about withholding if you’re not an expert. I’m not. On anything. So I just browse

Although I agreed that the inscription does look kind of different than others I’ve seen. Does your UDA cert mention the # 7 or just the sig?


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[Bpm0014]

....but enough people said it was good, espicially some of the really good guys on here.

It's just bad etiquette in this forum to hide or withdraw information (such as already having a cert/already been rejected/etc. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how it is here.

[Sladge34]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

....but enough people said it was good, espicially some of the really good guys on here.

It's just bad etiquette in this forum to hide or withdraw information (such as already having a cert/already been rejected/etc. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how it is here.

Read the "jsa came to town" thread. Tell me how many of those "really good guys" got it wrong?

[Sladge34]

And yes, if I would have said right away that jsa and Uda authenticated it, it would cloud people's judgement. I left it unsaid to get people's honest opionion.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Sladge34

And yes, if I would have said right away that jsa and Uda authenticated it, it would cloud people's judgement. I left it unsaid to get people's honest opionion.

UDA did not "authenticate" it. UDA are all first hand witnessed signatures from supervised signings.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Sladge34

Read the "jsa came to town" thread. Tell me how many of those "really good guys" got it wrong?

The first photo of the ball that some people gave the thumbs up was a fuzzy photo from a distance. (In all candor, they should not have offered an opinion on such a poor quality photo.) The second photo was a sharp closeup that clearly showed issues not visible on the first photo.

NO ONE just "changed their mind" just because of the JSA opinion.

Stop spreading fake news.

[Sladge34]

If someone can answer this it'd be great. So everyone can agree that mistakes happen. The big 3 get things wrong, users on here get stuff wrong. At the end of the day it's an opinion. Does it really matter that I had authentication before I posted? It might have if people said it was bad, it's almost like the people on here work for them and don't want to be contradicted. Chris Williams, you claimed 2 years ago that a Mantle ball was real. In the "jsa came to town" thread, all of a sudden it switched because jsa failed it. Chris wasn't the only one, but as highly respected opionions on here, most failed on that thread. This section is an autograph forum, looking for opionions. Just because you get a piece of paper with your autograph does not mean that it's real, anyone with a printer and any bit of artistic ability to make a coa. Upper deck authenticated it almost 2 years ago, close to 30 years after the ball was on sale by upper deck. And yes the no.7 is authenticated by uda and jsa. But at the end of the day it's just a piece of paper. According to the posts above, I should just believe any sort of coa because it says Uda and jsa. You guys taught me better than that, hence why I posted the ball, looking for reassurance