Black Swamp Find E98 set break

[sterlingfox]

I think it will eventually start going back up again, but it will take some time.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sterlingfox

I think it will eventually start going back up again, but it will take some time.

nope...I disagree.

[sterlingfox]

As they get absorbed into collections and become less available, they will gradually begin the upward trend. It's only a matter of time.

Look at how many high grade T206s are out there, and they continue to rise.

The only thing to be leery about is paying what they sold for a few years ago.

You'll also notice that the player/background combos that weren't a part of the find have maintained healthy values in mid to low grade.

Originally Posted by ullmandds

nope...I disagree.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sterlingfox

As they get absorbed into collections and become less available, they will gradually begin the upward trend. It's only a matter of time.

Look at how many high grade T206s are out there, and they continue to rise.

The only thing to be leery about is paying what they sold for a few years ago.

You'll also notice that the player/background combos that weren't a part of the find have maintained healthy values in mid to low grade.

i'll agree to disagree with you on this one. you can't compare desirability of e98 to t206.

factors that will keep e98 bs find cards down are as follows:

-there will always be those skeptical of this find's legitimacy.

-the fact e98 is not associated with any "brand"

-the highest graded big names will always price many collectors out of the running

i see trend mirroring the rest of the hobby...common bsf cards will continue to be priced low...exp off centered ones.

the cobbs/wagners will maintain much of their value but less than initially sold for in some cases.

I do agree that colors/players not in the find will maintain/appreciate somewhat more than those present.

[sterlingfox]

At the very least, I can see the BSF cards maintaining their current levels, which are abysmally lower than what they initially sold for - especially the HOFers. Some of them have sold for as little as 20% of their initial sale price in the past year or so.

The trend upward may take another decade or more to begin and will be extremely gradual. At a much slower rate than the popular T cards.

If it's determined that these were all fakes, then of course they will become worthless, but otherwise, they are incredibly beautiful for their age, regardless of no branding.

The off centered ones will always be much cheaper, but that's a trend across the entire hobby.

Highest graded big names in any release will always "price many collectors out of the running".

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i'll agree to disagree with you on this one. you can't compare desirability of e98 to t206.

factors that will keep e98 bs find cards down are as follows:

-there will always be those skeptical of this find's legitimacy.

-the fact e98 is not associated with any "brand"

-the highest graded big names will always price many collectors out of the running

i see trend mirroring the rest of the hobby...common bsf cards will continue to be priced low...exp off centered ones.

the cobbs/wagners will maintain much of their value but less than initially sold for in some cases.

I do agree that colors/players not in the find will maintain/appreciate somewhat more than those present.

[ullmandds]

for the record...I DO NOT believe they are fake/repro.

[hshrimps]

But it would be tough to inject hundreds of PSA 8 & 9 quality vintage card into the market (even slowly). Someone will definitely flag those as high quality reprints and people start asking where/how the printer found those vintage cardboard and printing plates etc.

[hshrimps]

All auction houses would suggest using "honest approach" to notify the hobby of such important find and make them available (pretty much) all at once. Since they all know if they wait and introduce them into a few auctions then the opportunities may swim to other auction houses. We are talking about quarter to half a millions of consignment/buyers fees.