PSA "No Prints" / SC 350-460/30

[brass_rat]

These cards come from a group that were sold raw on eBay over a period of months. They were neatly hand cut, not factory cut, so they graded PSA AA.

Other people here can provide much more information on the totals, I'm sure.

Given that they were not factory cut and these were the only examples of the backs on these "no print" cards, PSA didn't want to include them in the normal pop reports, but they agreed to list them in a section so that people can see the holdered populations in addition to cert verification.

This is my Cobb...one of three that were sold, I believe.

Cheers,
Steve

[greco827]

OK, that makes sense. So since all known examples of SC350-460/30 were hand-cut, it is believed they were never inserted into packs of tobacco, and therefore are not considered part of the 350-460/30 print run.

The fact that they exist though, wouldn't that lead them to the inclusion of the print run, or at least a subset of that print run? Perhaps factory cut examples would need to surface, although they are either super scarce, or non-existent, or they would have likely seen the light of day by now.

Any knowledge of their origin or speculation on how they came to be? Were they possibly from an uncut factory sheet with the factory designation printed on the back by mistake, and simply taken home by an employee, i.e., scrap?

Great Cobb by the way!

[Luke]

The generally accepted theory on these is that they were all supposed to get the Factory 42 Scroll Overprint, but were scrapped and cut up before the overprint could be printed.

All of the "no prints" are in the SC 350-460 Fact 42 Overprint Subset, so it's overwhelmingly likely they were supposed to get the Overprint.

[greco827]

Luke and Steve, thank you very much. That makes perfect sense. This is why I'm here! Thanks for the knowledge share!

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by brass_rat

These cards come from a group that were sold raw on eBay over a period of months. They were neatly hand cut, not factory cut, so they graded PSA AA.

Other people here can provide much more information on the totals, I'm sure.

Given that they were not factory cut and these were the only examples of the backs on these "no print" cards, PSA didn't want to include them in the normal pop reports, but they agreed to list them in a section so that people can see the holdered populations in addition to cert verification.

This is my Cobb...one of three that were sold, I believe.

Cheers,
Steve

Hi Steve, Great looking Cobb. That looks like the last Cobb of the 3 that was auctioned on ebay.

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Hi Steve, Great looking Cobb. That looks like the last Cobb of the 3 that was auctioned on ebay.

Thanks, Ron -- and you're correct, it is the last Cobb that was auctioned. The seller advertised it as the last card in the group, so I let him know that I had bid under the condition that it was truthful advertising. As far as I can tell, it was -- so I'm very happy.

The bat off Cobb is by far my favorite of the T206 Cobb poses.

Cheers,
Steve

[greco827]

Seems rather than no-prints, perhaps they should have been labelled as No-OP or missing OP. Either way, same result, just a bit more confusing. It also would have been nice if PSA used a designation on the card, rather than just slabbing them as 350-460/30, which makes them appear to be a legitimate part of this back run/factory combination.

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by greco827

Seems rather than no-prints, perhaps they should have been labelled as No-OP or missing OP. Either way, same result, just a bit more confusing. It also would have been nice if PSA used a designation on the card, rather than just slabbing them as 350-460/30, which makes them appear to be a legitimate part of this back run/factory combination.

I agree on both, what we call them and how PSA notes it. The "No Print" I think just kind of caught on because of the website t206resource.com because cards that are not suppose to exist due to printing patterns are listed as "No" or "Probable No Print". The PSA part is actually being worked on. So hopefully the inserts will be noted in the future and the back sub-set will be added to the set registry.

[t206fix]

The seller also sold a lot of hand cut SC460 f30 possible prints when he was selling the no prints. I owned two of the Hummels from those auctions.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=237566