RPPC Deadball Era Visual Showcase Thread

[Kawika]

This postcard depicts a game between the visiting Baltimore Orioles against the Montreal Royals circa 1905. It's somewhat speculative on my part but I believe the player charging toward the camera is lefty Fred Burchell who pitched parts of four seasons for the Phillies and the Red Sox and who has a T206. There are likely other former/future MLers in the scene; the rosters for both teams at BBRef.com indicate that the majority of players had played in the big leagues. The signage on the fences and beyond is what takes this postcard to the next level. The detail on the scoreboard is just beyond resolution but it might be possible to nail down the specific game if one were so inclined.

[Jobu]

Here is Cy Young playing with the Ravenna, Ohio team on Labor Day, 1912 just after he retired. Interesting to note that he is wearing the 1912 Boston uniform.

I did a ton of digging on this and found a few local accounts in the papers though not quite as much detail as I had hoped. I did find identical two-sentence blurbs in national papers so this game did go out on the wire "Cy Young is still playing ball in Ohio. He played first base for the Ravenna team Labor Day, and his squad broke even in a double-header. He pitched the last inning of one game."

Also noteworthy is how he is wearing his pants. I seem to recall a recent comment about pants appearing to be on backwards.

[Bicem]

Great postcard Bryan, thanks for sharing. Campf had one of those too.

[packs]

Whoa I've never seen that Abbott postcard before. I also have a colorized version of my Owen postcard. Must have really been a big day in Toledo.

[Jobu]

Thanks Jeff! Who is Campf?

Originally Posted by Bicem

Great postcard Bryan, thanks for sharing. Campf had one of those too.

[Bicem]

Brian Campf, long time postcard collector who passed away last year.

[sb1]

Sorry to hear about Brian, did deals with him for many years.

[h2oya311]

Is that really Cy Young?? Is it just me or does that look like an imposter? If it is him, he looks mighty young for a 45 year old.

[cdn_collector]

Originally Posted by Kawika

This postcard depicts a game between the visiting Baltimore Orioles against the Montreal Royals circa 1905. It's somewhat speculative on my part but I believe the player charging toward the camera is lefty Fred Burchell who pitched parts of four seasons for the Phillies and the Red Sox and who has a T206. There are likely other former/future MLers in the scene; the rosters for both teams at BBRef.com indicate that the majority of players had played in the big leagues. The signage on the fences and beyond is what takes this postcard to the next level. The detail on the scoreboard is just beyond resolution but it might be possible to nail down the specific game if one were so inclined.

Wow, that's so awesome.
George Gibson was with Montreal for the first half of 1905, and Cy Ferry was there for a bit too.

Is there any writing on the back?


Cheers,

Richard.

[Kawika]

Originally Posted by cdn_collector

George Gibson was with Montreal for the first half of 1905, and Cy Ferry was there for a bit too.
Is there any writing on the back?

The postcard was unused. Only writing on the back was a dealer's notes in pencil naming the teams and the red herring that Babe Ruth played for the Orioles (though Bam would have been ten years old at the time). Also have a quick note from the seller stating circa 1905. The rest is semi-educated conjecture. Very tantalizing to speculate who the other players are, or even that it is not entirely outside the realm of possibility that the throw to first could be coming from Gibson himself.

[cdn_collector]

Originally Posted by Kawika

The postcard was unused. Only writing on the back was a dealer's notes in pencil naming the teams and the red herring that Babe Ruth played for the Orioles (though Bam would have been ten years old at the time). Also have a quick note from the seller stating circa 1905. The rest is semi-educated conjecture. Very tantalizing to speculate who the other players are, or even that it is not entirely outside the realm of possibility that the throw to first could be coming from Gibson himself.

Very cool, David. Thanks for sharing your sweet "Gibson RPPC"

Richard.

[ksfarmboy]

Nice postcards Adam. Those have to be pretty tough.

[JoeDfan]

Also my only.

Originally Posted by ksfarmboy

Nice postcards Adam. Those have to be pretty tough.

Thanks. They're pretty scarce. You would think that you'd come across more of them here in Massachusetts, but that hasn't been the case for me over the years. The Worcester PC is the only one that came from a New England seller and he was in Maine.

[Leon]

Maybe a few years later but here is one...pardon the large scan but for those of us on computers with 24" screens it will look good.

[mybuddyinc]

Originally Posted by Kawika

The postcard was unused. Only writing on the back was a dealer's notes in pencil naming the teams and the red herring that Babe Ruth played for the Orioles (though Bam would have been ten years old at the time). Also have a quick note from the seller stating circa 1905. The rest is semi-educated conjecture. Very tantalizing to speculate who the other players are, or even that it is not entirely outside the realm of possibility that the throw to first could be coming from Gibson himself.

David,

Maybe I'm going nuts, or getting old (probably both ), but I "think" this postcard has been analyzed on net54 before. I kind of remember someone figuring out the actual day (or at least series) the game was played based on score board.

If not, here goes:

Baltnet.jpg

Baltimore
Montreal
Newark
Toronto
Providence
Buffalo
Jersey City
Rochester


Some GREAT items here.

Fun stuff, Scott

[Exhibitman]

That 1913 WaJo is friggin' awesome!

Does someone who corrupted MLB players count?



Rothstein's bag man for the Black Sox fix, Abe Attell

[Kawika]

Originally Posted by mybuddyinc

David,

Maybe I'm going nuts, or getting old (probably both ), but I "think" this postcard has been analyzed on net54 before. I kind of remember someone figuring out the actual day (or at least series) the game was played based on score board.

Scott- I was able to find the thread in which I posted the Sweet Cap postcard for the first time (October 2010 Pickups http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=130350). Mark F weighed in on the possibility, albeit difficult, of zeroing in on the specific game via the scoreboard details. I think that's about as far as the "analysis" went. Thought I'd have time in my retirement to pursue such undertakings but instead I have become the original dotard. Takes me all day to tie my shoes. Aging is cramping my style. I'm afraid the details of the game will remain a mystery.

[BeanTown]

Joe Jackson against Detroit

[Leon]

Can add this one. Thanks to Jeff P and the BST from some time ago.....

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by Kawika

This postcard depicts a game between the visiting Baltimore Orioles against the Montreal Royals circa 1905. It's somewhat speculative on my part but I believe the player charging toward the camera is lefty Fred Burchell who pitched parts of four seasons for the Phillies and the Red Sox and who has a T206. There are likely other former/future MLers in the scene; the rosters for both teams at BBRef.com indicate that the majority of players had played in the big leagues. The signage on the fences and beyond is what takes this postcard to the next level. The detail on the scoreboard is just beyond resolution but it might be possible to nail down the specific game if one were so inclined.

David - there's a fair chance that is Burchell. In any case, I wish more posters knew how have their images appear like yours.

[T206Jim]

Fantastic RPPCs guys!

Here is a 1911 one of the Detroit Tigers vs. the Boston Red Sox on August 3rd at the Huntington Avenue Grounds in Boston. Cobb is pulling into the bag at third, Crawford running towards second and Hooper is against the wall in right. The explanation is longer than I can provide here as it would be a thread unto itself, but if you're interested in learning more drop me a PM with your email address and I'll be glad to provide you with the details.

1911 Huntington Grounds Det - Bost.jpg