enough is enough

[cammb]

[QUOTE=nolemmings;1706416]

Originally Posted by cammb

There is no ignorance on my part, of that I am certain. Answers? You can't handle answers--they escape you, you deflect them, or they are simply beyond your comprehension. So let me see if I can make this more clear.

There will be no firings for kneeling at the National Anthem.
There could be no firings absent formal action taken through the CBA, which the owners would lose. Following along so far?
Whether the players are themselves oppressed is irrelevant. I'm a 58 year-old white guy who never served in the military. Do I have no right to join those who have been oppressed and protest with them at what I believe to be injustice? Or do I have to pass some exam satisfactory to you that I have such a right? Who are you to tell me what causes I may protest and those I cannot? And if I'm allowed to join a protest, where do you draw the line at who else can and cannot? There are white players kneeling in these protests. Do they need to prove to you that and how they've been mistreated? Is there a Jackie Robinson test? (Apparently he earned the right to not salute the flag or stand for the anthem.) Don't worry, it was a rhetorical question--the Answer is no.

Let me see if I can make it clear for you, I did not say hey will be fired I said they CAN BE fired. Where do you come off with this insane diatribe? I know who you are and what you represent so please no holier than thou bs

[nolemmings]

[QUOTE=cammb;1706659]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Let me see if I can make it clear for you, I did not say hey will be fired I said they CAN BE fired. Where do you come off with this insane diatribe? I know who you are and what you represent so please no holier than thou bs

You don't know me or what I represent. You know who I am, i.e., my name, because I state my full name per forum rules and because I would anyway. In the words of Roger Daltrey, "Who the f--- are you?"

[Cliff Bowman]

[QUOTE=nolemmings;1706670]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

You don't know me or what I represent. You know who I am, i.e., my name, because I state my full name per forum rules and because I would anyway. In the words of Roger Daltrey, "Who the f--- are you?"

Those are the words of Pete Townshend, voice of Roger Daltrey. Daltrey couldn't write a decent song if his life depended on it.

[nolemmings]

[QUOTE=Cliff Bowman;1706672]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Those are the words of Pete Townshend, voice of Roger Daltrey. Daltrey couldn't write a decent song if his life depended on it.

Point taken, sort of. Roger sang those words, but Pete clearly was the man.

EDITED TO ADD: Besides, I always wondered if Roger ad-libbed that f-word into the lyrics, thereby making it is his own. It was within his skill set
Still, thanks for the clarification.

[nolemmings]

BTW, I am not holier than thou or holier than anyone. It is not me who is telling others what they must do to show they are "real Americans", "respectful Americans" or "Patriots". Seriously, re-read the thread and tell us who comes across as "holier than thou".

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Seriously, re-read the thread

This is a joke, right? You need to re-read the thread. It's about those wanting to boycott NFL games. If you agree, then do it. If you disagree, keep your mouth shut and move on.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

This is a joke, right? You need to re-read the thread. It's about those wanting to boycott NFL games. If you agree, then do it. If you disagree, keep your mouth shut and move on.

This sums up the whole thread perfectly! Some see the protests as legal and perhaps even logical, but in this thread they're called names. Some want to the boycott games and punish players, those who don't should "Keep their mouth shut and move on."

How many posts about boycotting the NFL over the wife-beaters? I'll bet not 158. And David, can you direct me to any posts where you have any vitriol for the NFL for allowing Ray Lewis to continue his HOF career? Because I'd much rather celebrate Kapernick in any way over that criminal.

Ken

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

David, can you direct me to any posts where you have any vitriol for the NFL for allowing Ray Lewis to continue his HOF career?

Well, yes, Ken, I certainly can. Will this one suffice?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=193661

Post #24, 3rd sentence?

Anything else I can help you with, Ken, because I have nothing better to do today than to search old threads?

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

This sums up the whole thread perfectly! Some see the protests as legal and perhaps even logical, but in this thread they're called names. Some want to the boycott games and punish players, those who don't should "Keep their mouth shut and move on."

How many posts about boycotting the NFL over the wife-beaters? I'll bet not 158. And David, can you direct me to any posts where you have any vitriol for the NFL for allowing Ray Lewis to continue his HOF career? Because I'd much rather celebrate Kapernick in any way over that criminal.

Ken

I wasn't a board member back in 2014, but if I was I sure as Hell would have joined in on the conversation, condemning Ray Lewis & Ray Rice. However, you don't need to see posts to realize that people HAVE BEEN protesting the NFL over the DV and other criminality in the league. This isn't the first year that ratings are down. The NFL has been in decline for a couple years now, and the anthem protests have only occurred in the past 2 seasons. So people have been unhappy with other aspects of the NFL, the criminal employees being one of them.

[cammb]

[QUOTE=nolemmings;1706670][QUOTE=cammb;1706659]

You don't know me or what I represent. You know who I am, i.e., my name, because I state my full name per forum rules and because I would anyway. In the words of Roger Daltrey, "Who the f--- are you?"[/QUOTE

OK, calm down, snowflake!

[nolemmings]

[QUOTE=cammb;1706759][QUOTE=nolemmings;1706670]

Originally Posted by cammb

You don't know me or what I represent. You know who I am, i.e., my name, because I state my full name per forum rules and because I would anyway. In the words of Roger Daltrey, "Who the f--- are you?"[/QUOTE

OK, calm down, snowflake!

So who are you?--put your full name by your posts, oh legal scholar and mental giant.

Congress' laws are subject to review by the Supreme Court, which is free to find them unconstitutional where appropriate. A ruling that a law is unconstitutional is not "negated" by Congress simply saying otherwise. You see, oh learned one, that Congress itself is limited by the Constitution as to what it can do. Who knew? (Psst...most everyone).

[Peter_Spaeth]

[QUOTE=nolemmings;1706771][QUOTE=cammb;1706759]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

So who are you?--put your full name by your posts, oh legal scholar and mental giant.

Congress' laws are subject to review by the Supreme Court, which is free to find them unconstitutional where appropriate. A ruling that a law is unconstitutional is not "negated" by Congress simply saying otherwise. You see, oh learned one, that Congress itself is limited by the Constitution as to what it can do. Who knew? (Psst...most everyone).

Yet another thread that is a field day for non lawyers butchering the law. Sigh.

[bnorth]

Yet another thread that is a field day for non lawyers butchering the law. Sigh.

Maybe they are all lawyers, not everyone is good at their job.

[cammb]

[QUOTE=nolemmings;1706771][QUOTE=cammb;1706759]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

So who are you?--put your full name by your posts, oh legal scholar and mental giant.

Congress' laws are subject to review by the Supreme Court, which is free to find them unconstitutional where appropriate. A ruling that a law is unconstitutional is not "negated" by Congress simply saying otherwise. You see, oh learned one, that Congress itself is limited by the Constitution as to what it can do. Who knew? (Psst...most everyone).

Hey, snowflake, look up the word Negate. And yes, I am a mental giant

[Leon]

[QUOTE=cammb;1706759][QUOTE=nolemmings;1706670]

Originally Posted by cammb

You don't know me or what I represent. You know who I am, i.e., my name, because I state my full name per forum rules and because I would anyway. In the words of Roger Daltrey, "Who the f--- are you?"[/QUOTE

OK, calm down, snowflake!

Well, you do need to have your full name in your post(s) for comments like those, you know that.

[nolemmings]

Perhaps his full name should be put out there by someone else, as it has from time to time when one ignores the rules and requests that he identify himself.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Perhaps his full name should be put out there by someone else, as it has from time to time when one ignores the rules and requests that he identify himself.

I usually like to give folks an opportunity to put it out there for themselves once asked. Not always but usually.

[vintagetoppsguy]

There are a few people in this thread without their full name.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Perhaps his full name should be put out there by someone else, as it has from time to time when one ignores the rules and requests that he identify himself.

Ok, you have my name , now what else do you need?