Tobacco carton labels

[canjond]

Some of the tobacco carton labels are from the 1910s-20s and they are original. I have many of the same in my collection and I know where they were sourced from originally. They obviously don't carry the same value (or close to it) or "coolness" of the packs, but they are neat companion pieces.

- Jon

[renoch01]

Thank you Jon & Mark for the information.


Is there any place to find approximate values on these ?

[canjond]

Putting values on the carton labels are tough because you have a much more limited audience and they are only companion pieces. For example, I purchased my Tolstoi label identical to yours for about $25-$30 maybe 10 years ago, but I wouldn't think values changed all that much. They are cool, but it's not really something I'd expect to bring big bucks.

FWIW, I understand these originated with a man who worked with the US patent office who passed away many years ago (I don't want to disclose his name). A lot of his collection had the original entry dates on them from when they were registered. None of it walked out the door - he saved the items from the scrap heap after the registration samples were no longer needed or when there were multiples in the files.

(PS - Henry - if you're seeing this, is that your understanding as well?)

[renoch01]

Very interesting Jon thank you.

[Joe_G.]

What a surprise to find a thread full of cig packs on Net54. Thank you Rich for posting your recent pick-up as it is a joy to see.

Can you share what unopened packs date back to the 1870s. Most cigarettes were distributed in paper packs prior to 1886 and few have survived the test of time. Cigarettes were in their infancy in 1870s, would love to see a pack from this time. I like anything pre ATC merger (1890 & earlier), noticed a couple in your bunch that could be from 1880s. Did the collection include anything from Goodwin & Co. (Old Judge, Gypsy Queen, Dogs Head)? Again, thank you for what you've already shared.

[Mdmtx]

Originally Posted by canjond

Some of the tobacco carton labels are from the 1910s-20s and they are original. I have many of the same in my collection and I know where they were sourced from originally. They obviously don't carry the same value (or close to it) or "coolness" of the packs, but they are neat companion pieces.

- Jon

Mr. Dwyer,

Please disconnect your keyboard as I requested. Mr. Canfield has the opinion that they are original tobacco carton labels. My best advice to is an old saying “it is better to be quiet and just look stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”.

Mark Medlin

[renoch01]

Rich I have to feel sorry for you because after dealing with you for the first time there is no way anyone can believe anything you say along with have any respect for you. You can’t even read the post in the thread you are posting in. You need to change hobbies.

[canjond]

I'm a bit confused by the posts but again, the carton labels posted above, in my opinion, are original and span many decades, but some are definately from the teens (Lenox and Tolstoi to name 2 of them). As I mentioned above, I understand most of these came to the hobby from the registration files at the US Patent and Trademark Office. Here is my Tolstoi, for example, that came directly from the gentleman I believe Joe got his from.