Tobacco carton labels

[renoch01]

The ones for sure is cross cut. High grade. Between the acts non sports these have 10 cent stamps and may the Omar, Hassan, Murad, Egyptian luxury the others are after the fact but cool. . I screwed up and missed the Allen & Ginter Dixie unopened pack.

[renoch01]

Had these also related to cards I bought most of his museum items.

[rdwyer]

Dunno but the Phillip Morris, Tareyton, and Lucky Strike ones make me think they're 50's. (?)

[renoch01]

The box they came out of said 1900s 1910s 1920s and 30s-50s

[rdwyer]

I'm saying everything except the tobacco carton labels are pre 50's.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

Dunno but the Phillip Morris, Tareyton, and Lucky Strike ones make me think they're 50's. (?)

.."Lucky Strike Green Goes To War" was a slogan explaining the change in pack paper color after Pearl Harbor ; something to do with importing dyes and inks...if memory serves....Jeez I'm old...

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[renoch01]

Sorry rich some may be from the fifties but some are much older since I have the packs that match. Did Lenox print cigarettes in the 50s?

[rdwyer]

None of those tobacco carton labels are older than the 50's. Yes, they may have the same names as original T206 boxes, but I suspect they're reproductions. I've been around T206 boxes for 25 years, and never seen anything like your tobacco carton labels before. I've seen a carton of Mecca, and I think a Sweet Caporal, but they didn't look anything like yours. If what you have was real, it would be the find of the decade here.

[renoch01]

Lol so if you have not seen it must fake. So if you not seen God must be fake. This is from the collection of Joe Giesenhagen who wrote the book "The Collectors Guide to Vintage Cigarette Packs". I had the opportunity to purchase most of his collection.



These pics are only represent a small portion of what I bought.

[renoch01]

Rich yes some are from the 50s. The box said 1900s 10s 20s 30s-50s. So I am thinking they represent each of those decades and I do think most which I did not take pics of all are from the 40s and 50s. I used to own a baseball card shop in the mid 80s so yes I have been doing this a long time and this is the first I have seen of any of these. Apparently these are rare. Joe closed his museum down and I had the opportunity to buy most of his stuff he had been a collector for over 50 years.

[rdwyer]

If Joe thought those were 1910 cartons, he would've posted here years ago. They're reproductions. Get over it.

[renoch01]

Richard you are an idiot so think every person pushing eighty should be posting on Net54baseball. You really are ignorant as hell.

[Mdmtx]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

If Joe thought those were 1910 cartons, he would've posted here years ago. They're reproductions. Get over it.

Mr. Dwyer,

I have to interject. You said they were reproductions in this post. If you would, please disconnect your keyboard. Adults have been talking.

Mark Medlin

[rdwyer]

Reproductions/fantasy pieces, but not Cartons. He said they were tobacco carton labels. They are not.

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by renoch01

The ones for sure is cross cut. High grade. Between the acts non sports these have 10 cent stamps and may the Omar, Hassan, Murad, Egyptian luxury the others are after the fact but cool. . I screwed up and missed the Allen & Ginter Dixie unopened pack.

Would this be the A&G Dixie pack? I recently picked this up although it was already opened with 10 old Chesterfield cigarettes inside (not the original cigarettes).

Also, minor point, but the stamp with "10" on it is a tax stamp to show taxes were paid for sale of 10 cigarettes, not suggesting the pack is 10 cents. These tax stamps can help date the pack . . . The "Series of 1879" tax stamp was used from 1879 to 1883, the "Series of 1883" tax stamp was used from 1883 to 1893, and so on.

[renoch01]

Thanks Joe for the information and yes that pack or one like it was at his sale that I meant to buy but missed when picking out what I wanted....if you got that from Kansas City then it was from Joes collection....

[Mdmtx]

Thanks for all the great information in this thread. Some of you possess such great knowledge. Always fun to learn new things!

[renoch01]

Joe here are some of the older packs that I will be selling the 1898 Jefferson & the 1910 Queen Bess are full unopened packs. The rest are empties from 1901 to 1910 according to Joes labels but cool as hell

[canjond]

Joe - sorry but I'm the bidder who pushed you up in the Dixie (had I known it was you, I wouldn't have bid). I actually picked up the seller's unopened pack of Motor cigarettes.

[Joe_G.]

Hey Jon, looks like three of us had similar interest, I'm happy with the pack and price albeit more than I figured it would go for. Never a problem when bidding against each other, can't go wrong when everyone bids what it is worth to each.