T216s, how do they stack up with their E card counterparts?

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by edjs

I love the People's Tobacco cards. I was wondering which of the E cards that share the same images usually go higher, lower, or about the same? Are there specific players that do better in one set over another? And always a good opportunity to show your cards!

Ed, the only person that I believe could provide you with a very comprehensive, meaningful answer to your questions would be a very advanced collector of all the relevant sets, and I would be surprised if such a person exists on this planet (to use a Goodwin embellishment). I think the best you can do is use the pop reports and VCP coupled with info that advanced collectors of any of these individual sets are willing to share with you.

Steve, great stuff! You have most certainly done your T216 homework!

DJ, while I agree that E92 Red Croft's are rarer than any of the other sets mentioned in this thread, I suspect there are D303s, E105s, T216 Kottons, etc. that would sell for more than a comparable condition Red Croft's of the same player. I say this because Red Croft's are so scarce that I doubt any set collector is working on this set - ditto for the T216 VEs. But, there are dedicated collectors working on the D303, E105, T216 Kotton, etc. sets who will pay strong for tough cards they need for their sets.

As some/many are aware, I'm working on a back run of the Hugh Jennings pose that is in these sets. Below is a pic of the cards I currently have, except for a T216 Kotton Tobacco "K123" that I won in the recent Memory Lane auction that I will be picking up from them at the upcoming Chantilly Show. I paid significantly more for my T216 VE than any of my other Jennings cards, however, based on what a poor condition E105 Jennings sold for at auction earlier this year, I am sure that an E105 Jennings in the same condition as my T216 VE would sell for significantly more, even though the pop reports show fewer T216 VEs (2 vs. 3), because of the demand from E105 set collectors. Can anyone confirm the existence of any of the following Jennings cards: (1) E92 Croft's Candy - Red, (2) D303 Mother's Bread, (3) Blank back, or (4) T216 Kotton Tobacco thin paper ("KNGO")?

[x2drich2000]

Val, you certainly could be right that certain e105/t216/d303 combination could outsell a red crofts. I know there are at least 2 people seriously building e105 sets, but as they acquire their cards, the next example generally drops signifcantly in price as the comptition is no longer there. This happened last year with the Jacklitsch card. I am aware of 1 collector considering pursuing a set of known red crofts. The bigger issue with the price of red crofts are people looking for any example as a type.