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09-26-2017, 11:41 AM
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I guess that is why I want to discuss these cards, it is hard to know which ones are in which sets, and especially which ones that are common in one set, but tough as nails in a different set.
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09-26-2017, 12:35 PM
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me thinks if you are looking for a specific card in many of the sets being discussed,,,t216, d303...they are all tough. no rarities within these sets im aware of...look at the pops...thery're all tough!!!
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09-26-2017, 01:26 PM
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Pete, so true. However, among the rarities, there are some that are uber rare. This Bridwell with a MINO back is in the uber rare group. Just using the SGC population for this card in E90 is 36, the E106 is 14, the T216 Kotton has a listing with 5 Kotton that does not differentiate between this and the sliding image, 1 Kotton that is this image, this one MINO, and one VE that does not identify the image, so it could be this one, or might be sliding. D303 and Tango eggs doesn't identify whether they are sliding or this image, or if the one D303 is Mothers or General, and there are 5 Tango Eggs. So the pop reports are really hard to go by, in general. And we all know the reputation the pop reports have, between collectors that abhor slabbing their cards and the re-subs that change the pops.
My only objectives in this thread was to open dialogue and share collective wisdom on this board. People learn things from a nice, open forum discussion. Look at Steve's comments about T216 backs, these are things I would never know if I didn't ask. It is fun to learn about the cards and images that you love, and also have the opportunity to show your cards at the same time. Thanks to everyone for posting so far, it may be more fun to read about so and so doing something that bugs someone else, and all the mud slinging comments that go along with it, but I miss some of the old educational threads that were designed to just advance everyone's understanding of different card series. I don't have the experience that many of you do, I have been collecting for less than four years, many of you have forgot more than I can ever learn at this point. So I try to read the archives, and ask questions that will open a discussion. This is one of my all time favorites: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=146130
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09-26-2017, 01:46 PM
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well in the example you provided...to me...this is effective at showing how much tougher t216 is compared to e106 compared to e90-1. I am not ware of any uber rarities within t216 especially in light of TPG'ers poor attention in detailing backs when graded. Within my miller run there are a handful of cards where the pop reports show low to moderate single digit pops...yet I don't consider them "uber rarities" within their set.
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09-26-2017, 02:56 PM
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Not directly relevant as far as relative card populations, but it is always nice to have an easily accessed point of reference available when discussing the shared images among the 1910 era issues. I posted this E90-1 shared images list previously on another thread:
List of E90-1 card images found in other sets Ok, now it is time to set down the 49 cards in the E90-1 American Caramel issue whose images are found in other sets. By each player's name I will include an abbreviation of all other sets the same image is seen (this time I will include Tango Egg and D380 Clement cards). If an image in one of the other sets is identified as a different player than it is in the E90-1 set, this player's name will be identified by parenthesis after the set in question. The abbreviation key is as follows: e92ca - E92 Croft's Candy e92co - E92 Croft's Cocoa e92d - E92 Dockman e92n - E92 Nadja e101 - E101 e102 - E102 e105 - E105 Mello Mint e106 - E106 American Caramel d303g - D303 General Baking d303m - D303 Mothers Bread t216k - T216 Kotton t216m - T216 Mino t216v - T216 Virginia Extra d380- D380 Clement Bread tng - Tango Eggs E90-1 American Caramel cards with images found in other sets: Bailey - e92n Barry running - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Bemis - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e105, t216k, t216m, t216v Bescher - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e102, e105, e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v, tng Bresnahan - e92n, e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v, tng Bridwell batting - e106, t216k,t216m, t216v, tng Bush - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Chase portrait - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v, d380 Cobb side view - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v, d380 Collins - e92ca, e92co, e92n, e101, e102, e105, e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v, tng Demmitt - e106, d303g, d303m(Felsch), t216k, t216m, t216v, tng(Felsch) Dougherty - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e102, e105, t216k, t216m t216v Ellis - E92n Engle - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Fromme - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Gibson back view - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e105, e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Gibson front view - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Hartzell batting - e92n, e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Hartzell fielding - e92n, t216k, t216m, t216v, d380 Howell brown cap - e92n Howell red cap - e92n, d380 Joss portrait - d380 Krause - d380 Lajoie portrait - e106, d303g, d303m, t216g, t216m, t216v Lobert - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e102, e105, e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Marquard - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v McLean - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e105, t216k, t216m, t216v McQuillen - e106, d302g, t216k, t216m, t216v, tng Miller fielding - e92ca, e92co, e92n, e101, e102, e105, e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Mullin - d380 Oakes - e92n, e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v O'Leary - d303g Phelps - e92n Plank - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Seigle - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e105 Shean - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e102, e105 Speaker - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Stanage - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Stone no hands - e92n, d380 Stone one hand - e92n Stovall - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Summers - d380 Sweeney New York - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v, d380 Tinker portrait - e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Wagner batting - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e102, e105, e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Wagner throwing - e92ca e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e102, e105, e106, d303g, d303m, t216k, t216m, t216v Wallace - e92n Wiltse - e106, d303g, t216k, t216m, t216v Young throwing - e92ca, e92co, e92d, e92n, e101, e105, t216k, t216m, t216v The various T216 issues all have the same checklist in the SCD guide, but it is still up to debate whether each pose exists in every set. I have included them here just because I am wicked. Also I am not sure which pose is used in the Tango Egg set for Schaefer. If it is the vertical pose, then it needs to be added to the list. Brian Last edited by brianp-beme; 09-26-2017 at 03:03 PM.
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09-26-2017, 03:15 PM
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09-26-2017, 03:24 PM
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Pete, here is a list of E92 blank backs that I am aware of. I have not tried to put together a list of the T216 blank backs/scraps like your Crawford. Also, I know there is a Cobb batting blank back, but how was your Crawford identified as a T216 instead of E92? Is it a paper version?
Blank Back - Chase x5 - SGC A, SGC 20, SGC 30, SGC 40, PSA 7 - Crawford - unknown - Davis - PSA A - Dougherty - SGC 40 - Gibson - Unknown - Lajoie - SGC A - McGraw x2 - was SGC 10 now raw (with cocoa overprint on front), SGC 40, SGC 60 - McLean - SGC 10 - Miller (fielding) - SGC 30 - Schlei - SGC 40 - Seigle - SGC 10 - Smith - SGC 40 - Tinker - SGC 40 (Goodwin - no scan) - Wagner (throwing) - SGC40 (possibly 2, they appear to be the same, but have different cert numbers) - Zimmerman - Unknown
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