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Old 09-25-2017, 06:07 PM
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It's generally thought to have been a nine-series set of cards, thirty-six cards in each series. Perhaps the confusion sets in when collectors introduce terms, such as low, semi-high and high to describe sequences in the numbering of the cards. The so-called "high-number series" is supposed to have started with the Mantle card as #253, however, as can be seen in this image of a partially cut 1951 Bowman sheet, Mantle was obviously not the first card on the sheet, and thus the high-number differentiation is an arbitrary standard, not imposed by Bowman or the Zabel Brothers printshop. Interesting speculative article on the 1951 Bowman printing sequence here: http://pjdenterprises.com/baseball_c...man_print.html
Pardon me, I have to correct the statement: "..Mantle was obviously not the first card on the sheet..". Mantle's card (#253) was the first card on this sheet (in the upper left corner).

This sheet includes the first group of Hi #s.... #253 - 288. It was mis-cut at the Zabel Bros. printing firm. Here are the card numbers of this mis-cut sheet......

#271 >> 279 (top row)
#280 >> 288 (2nd row)
#253 >> 261 (3rd row)
#262 >> 270 (4th row)

I collect uncut sheets, and all the other sheets of this group that I've seen are straight forward #253 >> 288.


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Old 09-26-2017, 07:12 AM
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Pardon me, I have to correct the statement: "..Mantle was obviously not the first card on the sheet..". Mantle's card (#253) was the first card on this sheet (in the upper left corner).

This sheet includes the first group of Hi #s.... #253 - 288. It was mis-cut at the Zabel Bros. printing firm. Here are the card numbers of this mis-cut sheet......

#271 >> 279 (top row)
#280 >> 288 (2nd row)
#253 >> 261 (3rd row)
#262 >> 270 (4th row)

I collect uncut sheets, and all the other sheets of this group that I've seen are straight forward #253 >> 288.


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You're right, Ted, of course. This unusual uncut sheet led me to the wrong conclusion, since the cards were not in number sequence.
Do you have any idea how this out-of-sequence sheet could have been printed? It does not seem to be mis-cut, since the printed rows are all correctly aligned, so was it actually mis-printed somehow? In any case, I apologize for assuming it was a regular sheet.
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Old 09-26-2017, 10:47 AM
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It's not a complete sheet.

http://apr08.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...pl?itemid=7410

The large one with 282 cards may be complete. It shows good side margins, but not much margin at the top or bottom. The designs repeat, but the right is two rows lower than the left.

It's possible that the cards were printed on a press that prints on a continuous roll of paper. (web fed) If that's the case, there would be no upper or lower margins although there's usually at least some gap where the plate begins and ends.

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