Another Battlefield?

[irv]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Not really. He's got nearly 25,000 positives. When was the last time you looked t someone with a 99.1% feedback rating and said "ugh..terrible!"?

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Even if they were negatives, he'd still be at 99.1% which is not terrible.

I think it actually represents an improvement for this seller as well. I remember him being in the 98's.

You do realize, like bid retractions, they eventually get removed. This guy, like Battlefield can never stay clean, they always have neutral and negative feedback.

Call me silly, but I'll stick with those that have very few neutral and negative feedback scores.
This last seller I just purchased from was clearly a mistake on my part. It won't happen again, I promise.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by irv

You do realize, like bid retractions, they eventually get removed. This guy, like Battlefield can never stay clean, they always have neutral and negative feedback.

Call me silly, but I'll stick with those that have very few neutral and negative feedback scores.
This last seller I just purchased from was clearly a mistake on my part. It won't happen again, I promise.

I assume by "they" you mean negatives. They do. The positives get removed too. It's irrelevant. What is relevant is that in the past 12 months the guy has had 24,997 transactions in which feedback was left and 24,782 were positive. That's 99.1% positive in the last 12 months. That's a pretty solid track record.

I do some selling on Ebay and I've learned that some buyers are just jerks...about 1 in a 100....which could explain why only 99 out of 100 of his transactions end happily ever after.

Not saying this guy couldn't clean up the one percent a little, but I think the evidence shows he's not intentionally trying to rip people off.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I assume by "they" you mean negatives. They do. The positives get removed too. It's irrelevant. What is relevant is that in the past 12 months the guy has had 24,997 transactions in which feedback was left and 24,782 were positive. That's 99.1% positive in the last 12 months. That's a pretty solid track record.

I do some selling on Ebay and I've learned that some buyers are just jerks...about 1 in a 100....which could explain why only 99 out of 100 of his transactions end happily ever after.

Not saying this guy couldn't clean up the one percent a little, but I think the evidence shows he's not intentionally trying to rip people off.

Now I get why you are trying so hard to defend them.

Of course there are jerks out there but please explain how many have perfect, or 100% positive feedback?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by irv

Of course there are jerks out there but please explain how many have perfect, or 100% positive feedback?

Ooooo, oooooo, I do, I do...

um, wait, uh...


crap.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by irv

Now I get why you are trying so hard to defend them.

Of course there are jerks out there but please explain how many have perfect, or 100% positive feedback?

I'm not defending him. I just think you're overreacting to a seller with 99.1% feedback. Especially one as high volume as him. You do that many transactions, your bound to have an issue with a buyer once in a while.

Like I said...there's one out of every 100 buyers. I think you may be one.

100% Postive feedback for me by the way.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I'm not defending him. I just think you're overreacting to a seller with 99.1% feedback. Especially one as high volume as him. You do that many transactions, your bound to have an issue with a buyer once in a while.

Like I said...there's one out of every 100 buyers. I think you may be one.

100% Postive feedback for me by the way.

I agree.

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I assume by "they" you mean negatives. They do. The positives get removed too. It's irrelevant. What is relevant is that in the past 12 months the guy has had 24,997 transactions in which feedback was left and 24,782 were positive. That's 99.1% positive in the last 12 months. That's a pretty solid track record.

I do some selling on Ebay and I've learned that some buyers are just jerks...about 1 in a 100....which could explain why only 99 out of 100 of his transactions end happily ever after.

Not saying this guy couldn't clean up the one percent a little, but I think the evidence shows he's not intentionally trying to rip people off.

I'll tell you what... Go buy a group of cards from Battlefield0516. Same premise 15k+ positives and "only" 129 negatives. After you get your cards, closely inspect them and compare to the auction scans. EVERY ONE of them will have some kind of clean up done, some more than others. Flaws will be hidden, corners will be worse on the card than in the scan. If you can live with that then leave all the positives you want. But you can't tell me that seller, despite 15k positives, isn't a crook!

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

I'll tell you what... Go buy a group of cards from Battlefield0516. Same premise 15k+ positives and "only" 129 negatives. After you get your cards, closely inspect them and compare to the auction scans. EVERY ONE of them will have some kind of clean up done, some more than others. Flaws will be hidden, corners will be worse on the card than in the scan. If you can live with that then leave all the positives you want. But you can't tell me that seller, despite 15k positives, isn't a crook!

But let's not forget that Battlefield isn't even close to 99% successful. While I totally agree with you, the severity of the photo-shopping and over-illuminating the flaws with bright scans is so blatant that they are much lower than a 99% rating. Along with 15K positives (allowing for a lot of "satisfied" buyers overlooking the touched-up flaws), instead of 129, you will have more like 450 negatives.

[clydepepper]

If (my) memory serves, I had several successful transactions with the particular seller...more than a year ago.

I had since noticed the alarming number of negative and neutral feedbacks that have accumulated and have shied away from considering further purchases from him.

That said, and I believe I am recalling the details correctly, I think that almost, if not all of his negatives have occurred during these last 12 months.

Now, whatever the reason for that, this seller is now off limits to me. The possibility of all those negatives actually occurring during the most recent 12-month period suggest significant changes in the seller himself...one could even speculate that he has passed on and relatives, with far lower standards, have continued trying to sell under his user ID - or some other similar occurrence.

If I can find my purchase records from this seller, I will be sure to share so that my comments will not seem so much like gossip.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by robw1959

But let's not forget that Battlefield isn't even close to 99% successful. While I totally agree with you, the severity of the photo-shopping and over-illuminating the flaws with bright scans is so blatant that they are much lower than a 99% rating. Along with 15K positives (allowing for a lot of "satisfied" buyers overlooking the touched-up flaws), instead of 129, you will have more like 450 negatives.

Also recall that Battlefield gets most of her positives on small cheap sales, but her negatives come on the expensive stuff.

[toledo_mudhen]

A quick check shows that I have purchased 30ish cards from him since 2014. For the most part I have been satisfied (or at least not annoyed to the point of negative) and some of the cards I have felt like I got a pretty good deal. There is the No Tracking and PWE shipping thing which is always a bit risky.

Lately tho it appears that I have also shy'd away from bidding/purchasing - maybe a bit subconsciously......

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by Sean

Also recall that Battlefield gets most of her positives on small cheap sales, but her negatives come on the expensive stuff.

Quick note, I traded messages with Battlefield and I don't believe the person running that account is a female. I know the name for payment via PayPal is Carolyn Battles, but I didn't read the messages like a female talking. He/she was surprised I lived in Alabama because most of the "assholes" are from up north. ha ha

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

Quick note, I traded messages with Battlefield and I don't believe the person running that account is a female. I know the name for payment via PayPal is Carolyn Battles, but I didn't read the messages like a female talking. He/she was surprised I lived in Alabama because most of the "assholes" are from up north. ha ha

As a Northerner (CT) who just moved south (TX), I find that particularly funny. We do have a reputation to uphold.

[Beansballcardblog]

Probably a case like a former friend of mine. He uses his wife's name, etc. on eBay now because he had multiple accounts suspended and they wouldn't let him back on. That was over ten years ago, when eBay had some standards.

Originally Posted by Jenx34

Quick note, I traded messages with Battlefield and I don't believe the person running that account is a female. I know the name for payment via PayPal is Carolyn Battles, but I didn't read the messages like a female talking. He/she was surprised I lived in Alabama because most of the "assholes" are from up north. ha ha

[irv]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I don't think this guy is an intentionally bad seller (99.1% isn't exactly terrible). I think it's more of a quality control and inventory management issue. The guy is high volume and most likely understaffed. I've bought from him in the past...after all there's a 99 out 100% chance it will be fine...but I am on alert when I deal with him.

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I assume by "they" you mean negatives. They do. The positives get removed too. It's irrelevant. What is relevant is that in the past 12 months the guy has had 24,997 transactions in which feedback was left and 24,782 were positive. That's 99.1% positive in the last 12 months. That's a pretty solid track record.

I do some selling on Ebay and I've learned that some buyers are just jerks...about 1 in a 100....which could explain why only 99 out of 100 of his transactions end happily ever after.

Not saying this guy couldn't clean up the one percent a little, but I think the evidence shows he's not intentionally trying to rip people off.

Up from 129 to 135 negatives in less than 15 days. Do you still think this guy isn't a bad seller and isn't intentionally trying to rip people off?
http://www.ebay.com/usr/tripleplayvi...p2047675.l2559

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by irv

Up from 129 to 135 negatives in less than 15 days. Do you still think this guy isn't a bad seller and isn't intentionally trying to rip people off?
http://www.ebay.com/usr/tripleplayvi...p2047675.l2559

Like I said in my previous post I've avoided this seller based on feedback. My buddy bought a card and told me this was the seller. I said "good luck". This was his third transaction with him so he had 1 bad out of 3. How many people don't get their cards but get a refund and don't leave negatives. I bet a lot. And I disagree that people are more likely to leave a negative than a positive. I've left one negative in around decade of doing eBay for an item that never arrived that had no tracking. I've bought dozens of cards that are much lower condition than described. I usually chalk it up as a loss. Sometimes I'll complain in a message to the seller and sometimes we work it out and sometimes not. If we don't I just don't leave feedback. I just bought a Brett rookie for about 15% of book with a "very light crease". Turns out the card is basically bent not slightly creased. The seller has 100% positive feedback and seems honest. I hate the card but based on the minimal amount spent I'm moving on with no negative. For me to give a negative it has to be really bad.

Why don't companies like battersbox and gregmorriscards have more negatives? They do as many transactions and self grade their raw cards. The 99.1% is actually deceivingly high in my opinion. I choose to stay away.

[cardsnstuff]

Isn't she committing fraud, by deceiving buyers? why can't or won't ebay shut her down?

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by robw1959

But let's not forget that Battlefield isn't even close to 99% successful. While I totally agree with you, the severity of the photo-shopping and over-illuminating the flaws with bright scans is so blatant that they are much lower than a 99% rating. Along with 15K positives (allowing for a lot of "satisfied" buyers overlooking the touched-up flaws), instead of 129, you will have more like 450 negatives.

Just to add a bit of fire to the Battlefield saga, I saw that the PSA 7 '53 Mantle auctioned the other day Mick is back in Alabama and being re-auctioned. I wonder how long it took the winning bidder, who forked over 9 grand for the card to go ballistic. Not long, I suspect. New Battlefield policy could be no return on graded cards, although I don't think they handle many.

[MrSeven]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Just to add a bit of fire to the Battlefield saga, I saw that the PSA 7 '53 Mantle auctioned the other day Mick is back in Alabama and being re-auctioned. I wonder how long it took the winning bidder, who forked over 9 grand for the card to go ballistic. Not long, I suspect. New Battlefield policy could be no return on graded cards, although I don't think they handle many.

Per eBay policy, "no returns" isn't really an option when the original listing is deceitful. Enforcing this is a different story.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Just to add a bit of fire to the Battlefield saga, I saw that the PSA 7 '53 Mantle auctioned the other day Mick is back in Alabama and being re-auctioned. I wonder how long it took the winning bidder, who forked over 9 grand for the card to go ballistic. Not long, I suspect. New Battlefield policy could be no return on graded cards, although I don't think they handle many.

Big surprise there! I just checked her feedback and there is no mention of it??
I guess some don't bother or something else like a deal was struck to avoid this?

Also, as an aside, has anyone ever read her neutral feedback? I am no expert when it comes neg/neutral feedback requirements and what constitutes what but, imo, most of her neutral should definitely be listed as negative!

[Marchillo]

So I think I found part of their problem. I'm at the show today with a pretty low budget. My buddy and I were at this table. They had low end $5 and $1 bins. Plenty of hofers from 60s-70s. Ending up getting a bunch of stuff under $100. So I did an eBay search on one of the cards I bought and what do you know. The same exact card is on an active listing. I look up the other card that I got for over $20 and what do you know that is active too. No bids on either card but anyone could bid and I actually have the cards.

To further the problem the guy who was running the table left his 15 year old and 12 yo (guessing their ages) to handle it all. They recorded the price I paid but not the actual cards. So not sure this guy has any type of inventory control whatsoever.

I will say though on a budget I had fun at that table. I still wouldn't buy from them on eBay. They didn't have a sign indicating who they were.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

I'll tell you what... Go buy a group of cards from Battlefield0516. Same premise 15k+ positives and "only" 129 negatives. After you get your cards, closely inspect them and compare to the auction scans. EVERY ONE of them will have some kind of clean up done, some more than others. Flaws will be hidden, corners will be worse on the card than in the scan. If you can live with that then leave all the positives you want. But you can't tell me that seller, despite 15k positives, isn't a crook!

Not the same premise. Battlefield's feedback rating is 97.8% That's a huge difference. Nobody looks at 99+% positive and raises an eyebrow.

97.8% is not considered a good feedback rating.