1933 Goudey (Ruth) Market currently?

[jb217676]

I didn't know cards were so complicated LOL

[cgriffith]

Originally Posted by jb217676

I didn't know cards were so complicated LOL

You know some collectors not only collect what they like, or what will always hold value but also enjoy the history and prestige the card can accure; both on an investment level and for pure enoyment of it historical signifigance to the hobby.

Sometimes collecting is more than meets the eye, I'm sorry it's so (laughing out loud funny!) no wonder it took so long for me to actually sign up.

[packs]

What does a Goudey push do for World Wide Gum? I bought this card for $500 maybe 5 or 6 years ago. I must be doing well now, right?

[Exhibitman]

Not necessarily. My experiences with alternative cards have been that they do not mirror the moves of the mainstream analogs. I have a nice Coupon Cobb that I know has not appreciated like the T206. I don't care; I really like the card. If your set is Goudey you don't take WWG as an alternative. Still, it is a tough Ruth so you're doing very well.

[Bigshot69]

Ruth's story is simply too magnificent to not be revisited by Hollywood or network television every 10-20 years. Like the appreciation comic books have experienced thanks to the added awareness Disney has given the brand, the same could happen to the Babe. And similar to the coveted Amazing Fantasy #15, the Goudey Ruth's are rare but not scarce enough that they are not attainable.

As for the man himself, he was arguably the first larger than life sports celebrity. He went from being raised in a quasi-orphanage to become the gretest ball-player of his generation and arguably of all-time.

Factor in the aesthetics of the set itself along with transitioning cards from being marketed with gum instead of tobacco and I personally feel there is chance for some upside here.

[Mdmtx]

The only way the 33 Goudey Ruth cards will continue to appreciate, is if I continue to not own one. When I prepare to buy, I will give advance warning so you all can dump yours before the market plummets. This action is usually about 1 to 2 weeks after I purchase.

[cgriffith]

Originally Posted by Bigshot69

Ruth's story is simply too magnificent to not be revisited by Hollywood or network television every 10-20 years. Like the appreciation comic books have experienced thanks to the added awareness Disney has given the brand, the same could happen to the Babe. And similar to the coveted Amazing Fantasy #15, the Goudey Ruth's are rare but not scarce enough that they are not attainable.

As for the man himself, he was arguably the first larger than life sports celebrity. He went from being raised in a quasi-orphanage to become the gretest ball-player of his generation and arguably of all-time.

Factor in the aesthetics of the set itself along with transitioning cards from being marketed with gum instead of tobacco and I personally feel there is chance for some upside here.

Exactly: I like how your comparison brought up another lexacon of hobbyist comic books; everyone knows who Batman and Superman thanks to Bill Finger, Bob Kane and Shuster & Seigel. They are imprinted into the history of Americana as is Babe Ruth. Because of this Ruth is desirable whether the card itself respresents that value is up to the collector and or market. But there is no diubt the important of Ruth in the promotion of the 33 Goudey Set and why its such a highly collected set.

The set with the 1909-11 T206 and 1952 Topps are probably the most collectable and sought after; and the reasons why are obviously but will his 4 Goudey's continue to rise as big as is legend and the man himself did. Babe Ruth changed baseball, and the availability of 4 cards within 1 set (#53 being the most desirable) allows for all collectors to enjoy the chase of the Greaterst of All Time.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cgriffith

Exactly: I like how your comparison brought up another lexacon of hobbyist comic books; everyone knows who Batman and Superman thanks to Bill Finger, Bob Kane and Shuster & Seigel. They are imprinted into the history of Americana as is Babe Ruth. Because of this Ruth is desirable whether the card itself respresents that value is up to the collector and or market. But there is no diubt the important of Ruth in the promotion of the 33 Goudey Set and why its such a highly collected set.

The set with the 1909-11 T206 and 1952 Topps are probably the most collectable and sought after; and the reasons why are obviously but will his 4 Goudey's continue to rise as big as is legend and the man himself did. Babe Ruth changed baseball, and the availability of 4 cards within 1 set (#53 being the most desirable) allows for all collectors to enjoy the chase of the Greaterst of All Time.

You had me until you got to the "most desirable". It's probably debatable....

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[brob28]

I cant remember a time when '33 Ruths were not in high demand. The iconic status of the player and set will keep demand high and price appreciation with it relative to other cards. That said, if there is an overall decline across the hobby I would expect this card to pull back as well (I know obviously right!). One additional thought, '33 Goudey's are available enough that set builders are in the game for this card as well helping demand. I'm in the market for several '33 HOF cards including a Ruth and it seems Ruth as well as others always seem to draw a lot of interest. If there is a safe bet in our hobby, like Kevin said, Ruth and Cobb are as close as your going to get.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Bigshot69

Ruth's story is simply too magnificent to not be revisited by Hollywood or network television every 10-20 years. Like the appreciation comic books have experienced thanks to the added awareness Disney has given the brand, the same could happen to the Babe. And similar to the coveted Amazing Fantasy #15, the Goudey Ruth's are rare but not scarce enough that they are not attainable.

As for the man himself, he was arguably the first larger than life sports celebrity. He went from being raised in a quasi-orphanage to become the gretest ball-player of his generation and arguably of all-time.

Factor in the aesthetics of the set itself along with transitioning cards from being marketed with gum instead of tobacco and I personally feel there is chance for some upside here.

There were several boxers prior to Ruth's time that definitely fit the bill of larger than life sports celebrity.

[orly57]

I know this is an unpopular stance, but I don't get the whole Goudey Ruth thing. I've owned all 4, and they are very nice cards. I get that they are playing-era cards of the most iconic figure in sports. My issues are: 1. They were released 18 years into his career (the season before he retired). 2. They are renderings, rather than photos. 3. There are about 1,000 of each in the psa population alone. I didn't check sgc, but I know they have graded a ton as well. They are far from rare. And that doesn't even include the WWG pop. 4. Three of the cards use the same image, and two are identical other than the color on the background.
So while I do think they are attractive cards of the game's greatest figure, I don't really see why they are so revered in contrast to far earlier and more rare Ruth cards. You may bash me now.