USPS ruins a gem/ Davidssportscards

[bobbyw8469]

Registered is the safest way to mail. If you sent it Registered, the USPS KNOWS who stole your item, and that person is fired. The package is accounted for every step of the way.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

How does one go about getting this??

Maybe Dan is talking about Shipcover insurance through ebay?

One sad thing is I actually owned that card for a while once upon a time. not sure if others have ever felt bad if things like this happened to cards they once had.

[ooo-ribay]

I have heard trying to collect on insurance with the USPS is a nightmare. Good luck with this.

On the flip side, I once mailed an antique diamond brooch for like 88 cents in a small bubble mailer. It got there just fine. For the most part, I have a high regard for the USPS although I can't understand how they are bankrupt with the prices they charge.

[The Nasty Nati]

Sorry to hear about the Lou. Such a beautiful card.

Have to wonder if that damage would have happened had it been in an SGC case. In my opinion SGC is the closest thing to graded card kevlar. As seen in this youtube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W41b2pyLKh4

But who knows, terrible handling from USPS. I hope you get refunded for your loss.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I have heard trying to collect on insurance with the USPS is a nightmare. Good luck with this.

On the flip side, I once mailed an antique diamond brooch for like 88 cents in a small bubble mailer. It got there just fine. For the most part, I have a high regard for the USPS although I can't understand how they are bankrupt with the prices they charge.

They're forced to contribute to their pension fund something like 75 years in advance...no one else is forced to do this, but one of our political parties hates the post office even though it's in our constitution.

And the post office prices still beat the heck out of UPS, DHL or FedEX. Try sending a letter for 44 cents with one of those companies.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Try sending a letter for 44 cents with one of those companies.

I wouldn't try that for "44" cents with the USPS either.

[autograf]

No question.....should have been in a box. Period. A $2.00 box with bubble wrap or cardboard around it may have spared this card.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by tschock

I wouldn't try that for "44" cents with the USPS either.

Heh...49 cents. I had to look it up...all of my first class stamps are forever stamps that I bought years ago.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

hey, it happens. Like I said, im not concerned financially, that will get resolved... such a tragedy seeing a great exemplar go from NM7 to Fair2/VG3 based on just carelessness.

I think everyone on these boards treasures the history, the art, etc... it's like someone folded a Masterpiece. should send PSA a note to update the registry. Other mint examples just went up a little in value

Oh, I know you'll be compensated for the loss, but you were really looking forward to owning that beautiful card, and no amount of money can really make up for the disappointment. I hope you can find another just as nice, though it might take a while.

Good luck!

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Sorry to hear about the Lou. Such a beautiful card.



Have to wonder if that damage would have happened had it been in an SGC case. In my opinion SGC is the closest thing to graded card kevlar. As seen in this youtube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W41b2pyLKh4



But who knows, terrible handling from USPS. I hope you get refunded for your loss.

Ridiculous video

[prestigecollectibles]

I use these boxes for shipping cards by first class mail. They are strong and secure and they fit well in the Priority Mail flat rate envelopes too.

[WWG]

Is he here.

[WWG]

Does anyone know this seller?

[Snapolit1]

Small priority mail box and some bubble wrap. Problem solved.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Why are we talking about an episode 3 years ago??

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why are we talking about an episode 3 years ago??

because there's nothing left to say about mayweather vs. mcgregor?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why are we talking about an episode 3 years ago??

Wondering the same thing Peter.....

[thetruthisoutthere]

I stopped using padded envelopes a long time ago.

Even though I only sell a few items a month, I use a well-secured box for everything (even a single card) I sell.

[Snapolit1]

Nice Lou. Hope it wasn't ruined.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

Man that sucks. With such a high value card I would use bubble wrap and a box.

Agree... the tiny bit more you spend on a small rigid box is soooooooo worth it.

[WWG]

+1

[hshrimps]

ok.. i won't buy from davidssportscards in the future. thx

[Touch'EmAll]

Real bummer. Can't imagine there are many of those in that grade floating around. Sigh.

[samosa4u]

This thread got me thinking about one thing: what if the card had been in a Beckett holder, would it still have gotten damaged? I think you need a jackhammer to break it.

[TistaT202]

+1

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Unacceptable. Bubble wrap and cardboard is always a must when sending valuables. My two cents!!

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by hshrimps

ok.. i won't buy from davidssportscards in the future. thx

Remember, this is a 3 year old thread. Has anyone purchased from this seller since then and can share their experiences? I would assume he learned a lesson and has changed the way he ships extra valuable cards.

Brian

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Remember, this is a 3 year old thread. Has anyone purchased from this seller since then and can share their experiences? I would assume he learned a lesson and has changed the way he ships extra valuable cards.

Brian

99.99 percent of packages arrive unharmed is my best guess. As long as a seller is a stand up guy who is going to refund you in the event of damage, and with paypal I doubt the seller even has a choice, I would never boycott someone because I didn't like their packaging. I wouldn't even think about it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

99.99 percent of packages arrive unharmed is my best guess. As long as a seller is a stand up guy who is going to refund you in the event of damage, and with paypal I doubt the seller even has a choice, I would never boycott someone because I didn't like their packaging. I wouldn't even think about it.

I agree, I have received many $50-$100 cards in the mail in just a PWE from fellow members. As long as the card arrives in the same condition I purchased it in I don't care how they shipped it.

[WWG]

Unfortunately we're talking about a $2,500 card, with a NM 7 population of only 8 (better make that 7).

[Duluth Eskimo]

This is a 3 year old thread. It's a moot point.

[Snapolit1]

Interesting juxtaposition to all the anguish over Christies charging $150 to ship a one of a kind museum piece across the country. Put it in the file titled "Outrage About Everything".

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by WWG

Unfortunately we're talking about a $2,500 card, with a NM 7 population of only 8 (better make that 7).

Out of curiosity why did you dredge up this old thread?

[joshuanip]

Does anyone have a contact for David’s sportscards. Unrelated to the OP. Interested in one of his cards.

[OldSchoolBaseball]

Sorry old thread. Didn’t look at date

[FrankWakefield]

x

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Wow, Dan. That's unsettling to hear about your experience with Registered Mail. While this method has been slow, sometimes costly and in one instance had a package go undelivered for a month, I always thought of it as being the height of safety.

Insofar as shipping slabs is concerned, I have had success in placing the slab between sheets of foam followed by either cardboard or lightweight wood on either side. Then, simply tape up on all sides and then place in the bubble mailer (and cover every square inch of the bubble mailer in shipping tape if you're using a Kraft mailer as opposed to poly).

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Does anyone have a contact for David’s sportscards. Unrelated to the OP. Interested in one of his cards.

No contact info, but just some advice...probably better next time to just start a new thread that doesn't drag up a big messy situation from 3 years ago and gets people feeling they are stuck in a time warp.

Brian

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

No contact info, but just some advice...probably better next time to just start a new thread that doesn't drag up a big messy situation from 3 years ago and gets people feeling they are stuck in a time warp.

Brian

+1

[joshuanip]

Sorry. My bad. Didn’t expect a cantankerous response.

[brianp-beme]

No cantanker on my behalf, just thought you might get better results by approaching this in a different fashion.

Brian (cantanker should be a word, and in my opinion definitely shouldn't get that red underlining when I type it)

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Since this thread is multiple derails in motion I would argue that if something disorganized or messy is disheveled, then something put together well is sheveled. Red underline be damned.

[brianp-beme]

As I have always claimed, it is better to be sheveled on many levels, than to be cantankered down in the basement with the rodentii.

Brian

[perezfan]

How could you NOT use a box for a card like that???

At a bare minimum it should be sandwiched between rigid cardboard within a bubble mailer. But even that's not worth the risk. I never understand how these sellers have such faith in minimal packaging.

Best of luck with your compensation!

[brianp-beme]

I mentioned previously that this was a 3 year old thread, but actually it is a 7 year old thread. My mistake.

Brian

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

so... just got off the phone with Dave, sounds like he wants to talk to USPS and open a case with them. Asked me to wait 2 days to let him get that process started.

If it were you and you were sitting on a $2500 damage, would you wait the two days, or would you open a case right away if he doesn't issue an immediate refund?

How would you all handle? This is the first time I've actually had this happen so I'm a noob in the world of getting my money back

He is not on this board as you may have learned by now-but among legacy eBay card dealers he is well established. I bought one of the most important cards I own, this Matty Dark Cap, from him three years ago. He sent it certified mail with full insurance and it was held up at my post office. He managed to get through to someone there on a Saturday and they brought it right over to me! His experience ensures he will be just fine on his end. As long as ebay sellers cooperate, buyer refunds are virtually automatic for damages like this. These are among the reasons his prices are a tad on the high side-he doesn't skimp on insured shipping and is willing to micro-manage tough customer situations.

[joshuanip]

Originally Posted by Santo10Fan

He is not on this board as you may have learned by now-but among legacy eBay card dealers he is well established. I bought one of the most important cards I own, this Matty Dark Cap, from him three years ago. He sent it certified mail with full insurance and it was held up at my post office. He managed to get through to someone there on a Saturday and they brought it right over to me! His experience ensures he will be just fine on his end. As long as ebay sellers cooperate, buyer refunds are virtually automatic for damages like this. These are among the reasons his prices are a tad on the high side-he doesn't skimp on insured shipping and is willing to micro-manage tough customer situations.

I meant to get in contact with him on a high priced card he is selling and the intent was in no way to besmirch him. My error- please let this post die off...