OT: Mcgregor VS Mayweather

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Guys who are defenseless are at risk of serious injury, it was correct to stop it. I think Mayweather probably was told not to end it too quickly for commercial reasons. Also, he may have actually been enjoying himself and was content to linger a few extra rounds in his last ring appearance. With the difference in ring experience and intelligence, hand speed, and punching power, this was not a real contest IMO.

Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.

[felada]

No he was doing it because he placed a rather large bet on himself to win in the tenth round

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.

It's one thing to hit a man, another to hit him with a punch with anything behind it. I still think he chose the round. This was a win win. Floyd got his victory, MacGregor got respect for fighting what superficially looked like a decent fight, the fans and network got a reasonably long bout.

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.

I saw the fight you just described!!!


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[bnorth]

This is what I watched.I watched a 40 year old with a plan hit a young man in his prime at will. Floyd had a game plan and executed it perfectly on someone with almost no boxing skill.

[rayray]

It seems like cardio got the best out of Conor. Floyd is in tremendous shape (even at 40) and knows what it takes to go the distance. Unfortunately for Conor, his inexperience as an 0-0 professional boxer caused him to burn out sooner then he would've liked. Other than that, I thought it was an entertaining fight from both fighters. And as a boxing fan, I have to give Conor respect for lasting as long as he did and not being completely outclassed the way many experts originally predicted.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rayray

It seems like cardio got the best out of Conor. Floyd is in tremendous shape (even at 40) and knows what it takes to go the distance. Unfortunately for Conor, his inexperience as an 0-0 professional boxer caused him to burn out sooner then he would've liked. Other than that, I thought it was an entertaining fight from both fighters. And as a boxing fan, I have to give Conor respect for lasting as long as he did and not being completely outclassed the way many experts originally predicted.

I think what got the best out of Conor was that his skill level, hand speed and punching power were (as was obvious going in) completely inferior to Floyd's.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think what got the best out of Conor was that his skill level, hand speed and punching power were (as was obvious going in) completely inferior to Floyd's.

From my vantage point I think everyone comes out looking good. McGregor lasted a good amount of time. Mayweather avoided the upset and finished him. Both made a ton of money. The public seems to have enjoyed the fight and the lead up.

Mayweather cemented his legacy going undefeated. McGregor can return to MMA where he can use his arsenal with no damage done to his reputation.

I think the bigger issue is that MMA is at real cross roads. There are very few stars left and because the win loss records matter and the competition is so tough it is hard to create them. The use of performance enhancing drugs is an epidemic in the sport and I think popularity is waning. I used to never miss a PPV but can't recall the last one I bought. The Fertita brothers seemed to have sold at the perfect time.

[Snapolit1]

First boxing match many young people ever watched. My 17 yr old was riveted. Problem with MMA is the fights often are over in the blink of an eye. You can't match the drama of a 10 or 12 round boxing match.

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

From my vantage point I think everyone comes out looking good. McGregor lasted a good amount of time. Mayweather avoided the upset and finished him. Both made a ton of money. The public seems to have enjoyed the fight and the lead up.

Mayweather cemented his legacy going undefeated. McGregor can return to MMA where he can use his arsenal with no damage done to his reputation.

I think the bigger issue is that MMA is at real cross roads. There are very few stars left and because the win loss records matter and the competition is so tough it is hard to create them. The use of performance enhancing drugs is an epidemic in the sport and I think popularity is waning. I used to never miss a PPV but can't recall the last one I bought. The Fertita brothers seemed to have sold at the perfect time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

From my vantage point I think everyone comes out looking good. McGregor lasted a good amount of time. Mayweather avoided the upset and finished him. Both made a ton of money. The public seems to have enjoyed the fight and the lead up.

I agree with all that, my only objection from an admitted purist/snob perspective is to anyone who considered it a real fight. It wasn't. I am sure it went pretty much according to the plan you outlined above.