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Old 08-27-2017, 10:21 PM
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My dad just got back and said no deals to be had. People were paying more than the stuff was worth in most cases. He said someone paid 15K for a case of 1987 Fleer baseball & $2500 for a 1960 Topps baseball set in average condition. I think that says alot about what's going on there.
I was there Saturday and it was the 1984 Fleer Update case that went for $15K. Some big money was there buying what they could and yes, some of the cheaper cases went for a little higher-than-normal prices. Some deals could be had, but generally there was a lot of money in the room pushing up prices.

I thought the auction house ran a good, tight ship. The auction began at noon and ended at 9 pm. It took so long because of the aforementioned practice of auctioning and re-auctioning the individual items of a lot, such as autographed baseballs and the tons of unopened cases/partial cases. It would have gone much quicker to sell a lot 16 autographed baseballs for one money, but that wouldn't have maximized the income for both the consignor and auction house, of course.

I couldn't make it for today, Sunday. I suspect there was a similar pace to the auction today. I can't wait for Saturday September 16th! (I think.)
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Old 08-28-2017, 06:13 AM
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I was there Saturday and it was the 1984 Fleer Update case that went for $15K. Some big money was there buying what they could and yes, some of the cheaper cases went for a little higher-than-normal prices. Some deals could be had, but generally there was a lot of money in the room pushing up prices.

I thought the auction house ran a good, tight ship. The auction began at noon and ended at 9 pm. It took so long because of the aforementioned practice of auctioning and re-auctioning the individual items of a lot, such as autographed baseballs and the tons of unopened cases/partial cases. It would have gone much quicker to sell a lot 16 autographed baseballs for one money, but that wouldn't have maximized the income for both the consignor and auction house, of course.

I couldn't make it for today, Sunday. I suspect there was a similar pace to the auction today. I can't wait for Saturday September 16th! (I think.)
Thanks for the follow up info.....Seems like sometimes small auctions get more money than big ones, but not usually .
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:13 AM
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I was there Saturday and it was the 1984 Fleer Update case that went for $15K. Some big money was there buying what they could and yes, some of the cheaper cases went for a little higher-than-normal prices. Some deals could be had, but generally there was a lot of money in the room pushing up prices.

I thought the auction house ran a good, tight ship. The auction began at noon and ended at 9 pm. It took so long because of the aforementioned practice of auctioning and re-auctioning the individual items of a lot, such as autographed baseballs and the tons of unopened cases/partial cases. It would have gone much quicker to sell a lot 16 autographed baseballs for one money, but that wouldn't have maximized the income for both the consignor and auction house, of course.

I couldn't make it for today, Sunday. I suspect there was a similar pace to the auction today. I can't wait for Saturday September 16th! (I think.)
If it was a sealed 84 fleer update case, $15k wasn't a bad price if it was a typical 100 set case.
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:43 AM
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I was there Sunday. The better deals were had on Saturday from what I heard. The 84 Fleer Update case was part of a larger lot from what I heard. $14K for that case isnt bad, considering how tough they are.
Other stuff went for pretty healthy prices.
See what happens when you don't have an estate plan in place?
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Old 08-28-2017, 09:19 AM
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I was there both days - no real deals to be had IMO. There were a LOT of dealers buying up stuff for their inventory, also some people were paying crazy money for things that they couldn't possibly have done any research on. For example, a lot of 33 Goudeys went for close to 6k counting premium - if there were $2500 worth of cards in the group, I would be surprised.

It was run by a small auction house, but they are very good at their jobs - the auctioneer (Jennifer) is a dynamo - she went all day Saturday running the thing without even taking one break. Super nice people too.
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If it was a sealed 84 fleer update case, $15k wasn't a bad price if it was a typical 100 set case.
There are 50 sets in Fleer Updates. Topps Traded had 100.
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Old 08-28-2017, 02:55 PM
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I was there parts of both days. Saturday seemed to have more high end items than Sunday but there were a ton of items both days. I bought 4-5 lots for my collection but good deals were hard to come by when I was there. You are right about the auctioneer....she kept things on point and flowing as well as she could, a real pro. I'm sure they learned a lot this weekend and will improve the lot makeup in future weeks but they did a great job IMO.
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There are 50 sets in Fleer Updates. Topps Traded had 100.
I failed to mention the case of 1984 Fleer Update was opened. All 50 sets were there, fresh as the day they were made. A check of the sets revealed all the big money cards were there. Nothing pulled.
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I failed to mention the case of 1984 Fleer Update was opened. All 50 sets were there, fresh as the day they were made. A check of the sets revealed all the big money cards were there. Nothing pulled.
How was the centering? That is the big issue with 84 Fleer. Most are 60/40 - 65/35.
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How was the centering? That is the big issue with 84 Fleer. Most are 60/40 - 65/35.
I don't know as I took it on Jennifer's word (the auctioneer) that the money cards were there.
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Some of the Goudey's that were available at the auction are hitting the secondary market.

Bididng is...interesting on these cards. Buyer beware.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282664126479...84.m1436.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...IAAOSw9fRZxX5Z

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...UAAOSwAj5ZxX2i
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