Strange Green Tint Tidbit...

[JollyElm]

Did a quick #117 Geiger check and found a bunch of 'trimmed' cards on ebay. The top one looks to be the correct size, while the ones below it look like the 'after' pictures from a Jenny Craig ad:

1962Geiger117GTtrim2.jpg

If you're thinking of buying a GT off of ebay, take my advice. Make sure you ask the seller to measure it out for you.

[toppcat]

The thing is, Topps would have the uncut sheets shipped to Brooklyn from the printer, where they were cut and then the gum inserted during packaging. Perhaps they also did this elsewhere? Does anyone know if the Green Tints only (or also) came in cello's and vending? If so, that could mean they were cut elsewhere since no gum had to be put into the packs for those. Even the stamps had to be inserted in the cellos so that could impact where they were cut and packed as well.

[JollyElm]

I don't know the answers to those questions, but if I had to guess, I'd say whoever printed them, chopped them. Since there are untold numbers of problems with the GT's, like all the green images, the out of focus pictures, the pose variations, overly red inked photos/printing, etc., etc., it seems that the horrible trimming of the sheets fits right in. A logical conclusion would be Topps handed over the duties to a print shop and, man, did they mess up all around.

[JollyElm]

I was asked what other cards are in the far right column on the print sheet, so I'll post them here:

111 Dallas Green
117 Gary Geiger
171 Dave Sisler
164 Hal Naragon
165 Jackie Brandt
118 Julian Javier
160 Dick Stuart
194 Dean Chance

If you have a moment, please check out the green tints you have of these guys and post whether or not they measure up correctly.

[savedfrommyspokes]

A while back, a green tint hoarder sold me 25 complete runs of the green tint set. By far and away the Geiger card is the most consistently seen card that is short l/r. Naragon, 164, and Javier, 118, are both also routinely seen short, but nowhere near as often as the 117. The Ruth 139 card is also a frequently short card. Over the last few runs I went through, here are the card #s of cards I found to be short l/r: 111, 115, 117, 118, 131, 132, 135, 139, 145, 155, 157, 164, 171, 173, 175, 180, 182, 194..

This list is not intended to be all inclusive, as it is only based on 3-4 runs total. There may be other frequently short measuring cards missing from the list due to the fact that the copies in the runs I went through all measured up.

When I have more time, I can go through the remaining 15 or so runs and provide more detail.

Based on Darren's list, I have also encountered the 165 card short multiple times, however, have maybe only seen one or so of the 160 cards short.

[ALR-bishop]

25 ? Larry-- you and Darren would turn Kermit green with envy.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

25 ? Larry-- you and Darren would turn Kermit green with envy.

Yes Al, 25 runs of the 62 GT sub set....I think this collector still has many more runs, however, he is no longer collecting. This collector is as familiar with and as passionate about 62 GTs as Carlton is with 68 MBs. Since this collector stopped building runs last year, the "supply" of most GTs on ebay has surged.

About 10 years ago, before all of the hoopla with the 62 GTs arose, I finished my run.....minus the image variations, it was quite easy as most people did not actively collect them.

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I was asked what other cards are in the far right column on the print sheet, so I'll post them here:

111 Dallas Green
117 Gary Geiger
171 Dave Sisler
164 Hal Naragon
165 Jackie Brandt
118 Julian Javier
160 Dick Stuart
194 Dean Chance

If you have a moment, please check out the green tints you have of these guys and post whether or not they measure up correctly.

Here is what I found with mine:

111 Dallas Green - normal
117 Gary Geiger - 1 small and 1 normal
171 Dave Sisler - small
164 Hal Naragon - small
165 Jackie Brandt - normal
118 Julian Javier - small
160 Dick Stuart - small
194 Dean Chance - small


Mike

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[RayBShotz]

Nice!!!!