7 inning pitchers rule

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Classic. Sale was cruising through 7 -- 12Ks, 4 hits, 1 run. Of course, he has to come out because oh my God he had thrown 114 pitchers. Reliever immediately gets tagged.

114 pitches is quite a bit in today's game. I wouldn't call it a 7 inning rule, but more of the pitch count rule. Yeah he was probably pitching well, but apparently he wasn't very efficient/the opponent made him work. With him being one of the best arms in baseball, and it being the regular season, I would have pulled him, too.

Through 7 innings, for a pitcher to justifiably continue, they should be at no more than 100 pitches. That's just today's game.

Now, the argument can be made that players today pitch too much when their young, and too little as they age. That's why arms get blown out more often in today's game. Not sure we'll ever see that theory tested, but it is an interesting theory.

[frankbmd]

What would happen in today's game if you had a new rookie on your team named Warren Spahn and you were the manager?

Warren pitched more than 240 innings for 17 consecutive seasons and recorded 382 complete games. He also pitched effectively well into his 40s and never had Tommy John surgery.

After seven innings, if he told me he was okay, I would probably ignore the pitch count. Wouldn't you?

I also think there is an ample supply of relief pitchers capable of pitching two innings. With 7-8 one inning wonders in today's bullpens, there are over 200 candidates.

[frankbmd]

I would also add after seeing today's game evolve for more than sixty years, there will come a time in the not too distant future when starters will be pulled routinely before completing 5 innings. Perish the thought of having to face the leadoff man three times.

As a result starters will be able to qualify as losing pitchers, but will never be able to win a game. All will have records of 0-X. Imagine that on a Cooperstown plaque.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

114 pitches is quite a bit in today's game. I wouldn't call it a 7 inning rule, but more of the pitch count rule. Yeah he was probably pitching well, but apparently he wasn't very efficient/the opponent made him work. With him being one of the best arms in baseball, and it being the regular season, I would have pulled him, too.

Through 7 innings, for a pitcher to justifiably continue, they should be at no more than 100 pitches. That's just today's game.

Now, the argument can be made that players today pitch too much when their young, and too little as they age. That's why arms get blown out more often in today's game. Not sure we'll ever see that theory tested, but it is an interesting theory.

The NL they do things the opposite sometimes.....they afraid to pull a pitcher when he is at bat with bases loaded with 2 outs in a close ball game in the 5th inning....and he strike out...then in the 6th inning he comes into pitch and gets blasted...what was the purpose...might as well had a relief pitcher come in and had a 27 percent chance at least for a pitch hitter to bat instead of the starting pitcher....happened with jeff hoffman the other day against the marlins...they were afraid to pull this great pitcher in the 5th inning....

anytime i got a 27 percent chance or more to score 2 runs or more in a tie game or down by 2 in the 5th inning or later.....i would take the chance more than the zero times they do it in the NL if the pitch count is still low.. hench they afraid to sit the pitcher..while in the AL they are afraid to keep him out there