Goldin

[botn]

Originally Posted by packs

Someone would pay 10 million for the Wagner? Even after the truth behind the card came out?

The truth has been known about that card well before Mastro's admission and it never hurt the selling price.

[canjond]

Unopened case of '52 Topps?

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by canjond

Unopened case of '52 Topps?

Freshly dredged from the bottom of New York Harbor, how's that for provenance?

[drcy]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

Freshly dredged from the bottom of New York Harbor, how's that for provenance?

With fisherman's notarized letter of provenance

[packs]

Originally Posted by botn

The truth has been known about that card well before Mastro's admission and it never hurt the selling price.

It sold for 2.8 mil only 10 years ago before the Mastro admission. You think it'll appreciate 5 times along with the admission?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by packs

It sold for 2.8 mil only 10 years ago before the Mastro admission. You think it'll appreciate 5 times along with the admission?

Yes. That card, or one of the 52 Mantles in PSA 10 could easily go for 10m.

It would actually be less than 4x in appreciation by the way.

[packs]

Appreciate the appreciation. Agree to disagree.

[botn]

Originally Posted by packs

It sold for 2.8 mil only 10 years ago before the Mastro admission. You think it'll appreciate 5 times along with the admission?

My comment was not supporting the value of the Wagner at 10 mil were it to come to market but to point out to you that every person who has owned it knew the history before buying and paid up for it anyway. Again, Mastro's admission does not change the value of the card, imo. PSA is never buying it back so it is an 8 because we all know the flip rules.

Finally whatever item it is that Goldin will be auctioning will most likely sell for considerably less than his promotional tour will suggest.

[packs]

Ah, that's the issue, I'm talking about more than one admission. There's the admission that the card was trimmed, but also the admission of shill bidding in their auctions. That sale price was the highest bid, but maybe not truly the sale price, which could mean that 2.8 million is not really the benchmark for that card.

[perezfan]

Maybe it's Walt Williams' neck

Not expecting many people to get it, but was inspired by the Mordecai Brown post.

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Maybe it's Walt Williams' neck

Not expecting many people to get it, but was inspired by the Mordecai Brown post.

Always good to see a GABBCFTBGB reference!

Steve

[BosseFieldBoy]

I'm guessing it's either a 1988 Fleer Billy Ripken FF error PSA 7 or a 1989 Upper Deck Griffey PSA 7 or even better.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Always good to see a GABBCFTBGB reference!

Steve

Alright, Steve! I need a translation before I have to call BULL***T!

[botn]

Originally Posted by packs

Ah, that's the issue, I'm talking about more than one admission. There's the admission that the card was trimmed, but also the admission of shill bidding in their auctions. That sale price was the highest bid, but maybe not truly the sale price, which could mean that 2.8 million is not really the benchmark for that card.

The sale at 2.8 million was a private sale. This card was not part of the shill bidding that took place at Mastro Auctions.

[packs]

Ah, did not realize that.

[judsonhamlin]

Maybe it's the map from Time Bandits?

[arcadekrazy]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

Maybe it's the map from Time Bandits?

Now that's funny.....Although I would think such a map would sell for much more than 8 figures