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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am not sure it gets much if any review on reholder.

As long as the slab is not compromised there is no review of the card.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by bnorth

As long as the slab is not compromised there is no review of the card.

I personally know a board member who sent in for a reholder and they knocked his 51 mantle like 2 grades. They apologized, and told him they couldn't allow that error to continue. They paid him the difference.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by orly57

I personally know a board member who sent in for a reholder and they knocked his 51 mantle like 2 grades. They apologized, and told him they couldn't allow that error to continue. They paid him the difference.

Never heard of that happening. Glad to know they do it sometimes and refunded the difference. It still had to really suck for the owner of the rookie Mantle.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I am much more concerned about altered cards in holders than overgraded ones. We can spot the overgrading from scans for the most part and bid/pay accordingly. Highly skilled alteration, much less frequently.

[irv]

Originally Posted by orly57

Irv, it's the same card. It's the same serial number. It WAS in an old psa holder at a 5. Then it was sent to re-slab and psa left it at a 5 rather than correcting the mistake. It's not a big deal, because, after all, they are human.

I have heard that before, and that's only part of the problem I see with TPG's, namely PSA. Like has been talked about, that card should have never been graded a 5, but, as you say, it's a human factor, but it's hard to believe, unless the owner specifically requested no grading change, that PSA didn't correct it when it had the chance.

The 2 cards I posted just reiterated my thoughts about grading in general. I have seen many that make me scratch my head but thinking those 2 were likely graded by the same person, it just reconfirms my thoughts that grading has turned into a joke, if it wasn't already?

I think of the Dimaggio card with PWCC, and all the others I have seen since joining the site.
I have, time and time again, thought about getting some of my high number/value cards graded but based on what I have seen, they could grade at 2's or could grade at 5-6's? I am not about to take the chance, and that's all it is, nor spend all that money knowing my cards could come back at such a low grade. It simply isn't worth it, imo, and will add no value to my cards if they do.

Of course, I could roll the dice, but I'm not much of a gambler, and hope they come back at least 4-5's? It's frustrating, especially after you think you have educated yourself only to see what you have learned get thrown right out the window again.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Never heard of that happening. Glad to know they do it sometimes and refunded the difference. It still had to really suck for the owner of the rookie Mantle.

You would think so, lol, but he was actually thrilled. He got the card on the cheap because it was clearly overgraded. If I recall correctly, he was only into the card for like $1600 after psa cut him the check.