Anyone get a bargain at the National?

[brianp-beme]

I got an E104 blank back Eddie Collins in about good condition for $25, which I traded away.

Brian (of course this was in the year 2000, in a galaxy far, far away from today's National collecting scene).

[wondo]

For $600 I got:

T202 Cobb/ Moriarity SGC 10 black factory 30
T202 WaJo / Knight SGC 40 black factory 30
T202 Tinker / Evers / Chance SGC A

Thought is was a great deal!!

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by wondo

For $600 I got:

T202 Cobb/ Moriarity SGC 10 black factory 30
T202 WaJo / Knight SGC 40 black factory 30
T202 Tinker / Evers / Chance SGC A

Thought is was a great deal!!

Hmm...as long as YOU like it, that's all that counts....sounds high to me though.

[mechanicalman]

I bought Leon's Goudey Ruth 144 PSA 2.5 for a price 138% above SMR and still felt it was a fair price. (Maybe not a "deal," but a fair price for the quality.)

[Leon]

I don't have to be sales'ish but I think it was a fair deal given it looked more like a 4 or 5. I am happy for you, Sam....You can always look at it and be happy it's a great looking card.
I am on the hunt for one a few grades higher with even greater eye appeal (am willing to pay more too). Since that card, the E90-1 Young Boston (have it covered) and the T205 Cobb are my favorite vintage cards, I want them in really nice/higher grade than usual for me. Plus, i love the chase....

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I bought Leon's Goudey Ruth 144 PSA 2.5 for a price 138% above SMR and still felt it was a fair price. (Maybe not a "deal," but a fair price for the quality.)

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Hmm...as long as YOU like it, that's all that counts....sounds high to me though.

$600 for the T202s sounds like a pretty good price to me - Figure $300-$350 for Cobb, $200-$250 for Johnson, $50-100 for the cubs and you're somewhere in the $550-$700 range.

DJ

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Hmm...as long as YOU like it, that's all that counts....sounds high to me though.

maybe that's why there were crickets ... people didn't want to become the target of asinine comments like this

[vintagerookies51]

Went only looking for Jackie Robinson Bond Breads, and bought one from a guy who had a dozen of them. It was one I haven't seen for sale by itself in the 5+ years I've been looking for them, and I got it for $650. Considering some sellers on eBay price theirs for the same grade on eBay for twice that, I think I got a great deal

[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

maybe that's why there were crickets ... people didn't want to become the target of asinine comments like this

Agreed; that was a dick comment.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

Agreed; that was a dick comment.

John wears big boy pants and I didn't think the comment was very out of line. He said he thought they were high prices. Big deal . I overpay for stuff, who cares? I know I overpaid a little bit for these....but wanted them.

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[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by Leon

John wears big boy pants and I didn't think the comment was very out of line. He said he thought they were high prices. Big deal . I overpay for stuff, who cares? I know I overpaid a little bit for these....but wanted them.

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I respectfully disagree. If the OP asked if people thought he got a good deal on a purchase, then the response would be fine. However, the poster did not ask what his opinion was and I thought it was a dick comment. Like I was taught when I was a kid, if you got nothing nice to say...

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

maybe that's why there were crickets ... people didn't want to become the target of asinine comments like this

That wasn't an assinine comment. I think you just took it the wrong way....no one else did. But apparently YOU were offended......

[bobbyw8469]

Agreed Leon.....I thought they were high...he thought they were low....Some people think Trump is great....some people think he is an asshat......If you read the VERY first thing, I said, I said, the important thing was the HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD DEAL. If you are thinking I'm a dick, then you have a problem with yourself.

[bobbyw8469]

I know I've overpaid for stuff......I can admit it....I also know I've stolen stuff.....I know I sold stuff for a nice profit....I know I've given away stuff.....ebb and flow....ying and yang....It's the facts of life....we are all adults....I turned 48 today......As long as everyone is happy, life is good.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

That wasn't an assinine comment. I think you just took it the wrong way....no one else did. But apparently YOU were offended......

I disagree. It was out of line, and not in the spirit of what should have been a positive thread. I'm not personally offended but would be if a similar comment was made about a pickup I shared.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I disagree. It was out of line, and not in the spirit of what should have been a positive thread. I'm not personally offended but would be if a similar comment was made about a pickup I shared.

+1.

The point of this thread was to show your bargains, not elicit comments like "You don't know what you're talking about, your bargain was not one."
Or the sanctimonious "Well, if you think so..."

Waiting for the next person to show us their bargain, and I encourage some positive support for them. It's not that hard, people.

[bobbyw8469]

It's not even a negative comment. I think people are viewing it negatively....for example...say, Im a non smoker....I think cigarette packs are high.....say you smoke...you think cigarette packs are cheap....they are just two people's opinions. There is nothing negative or positive associated with it. I think people are taking it the wrong way.....two different people can view two things totally differently.

[wondo]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Hmm...as long as YOU like it, that's all that counts....sounds high to me though.

Flipped the Wajo to a dealer for $260
Sold the Cubbies for $250 to public
Into the Cobb for $90

Good deal

[Tennis13]

Originally Posted by wondo

Flipped the Wajo to a dealer for $260
Sold the Cubbies for $250 to public
Into the Cobb for $90

Good deal

Imagine how stupid I felt when someone said that A was $50 - $100 then thinking "i wonder where he found another one" and then realizing I am "public."

I wanted the card. I bought the card. And it's sitting at my desk at work, even if apparently I overpaid for it. You know as well as I do that there wasn't alot of those Tinker/Evers/chance T202's there, so I bought it.

Even if some dude thinks I paid too mich, and you call me "public." Ha

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by Tennis13

Imagine how stupid I felt when someone said that A was $50 - $100 then thinking "i wonder where he found another one" and then realizing I am "public."

I wanted the card. I bought the card. And it's sitting at my desk at work, even if apparently I overpaid for it. You know as well as I do that there wasn't a lot of those Tinker/Evers/chance T202's there, so I bought it.

Even if some dude thinks I paid too mich, and you call me "public." Ha

Scott, I apologize for making you feel that way. My point was simply if you broke down what John paid, it wasn't a high price at all. We only had the grades and not actual scans and of course an "A" could be anything from a slight trim that otherwise looks NM to something that has been sitting in acid for 3 weeks. As such, I was being conservative with the values I through out. I'm glad to hear you are happy with the card.

[Tennis13]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Scott, I apologize for making you feel that way. My point was simply if you broke down what John paid, it wasn't a high price at all. We only had the grades and not actual scans and of course an "A" could be anything from a slight trim that otherwise looks NM to something that has been sitting in acid for 3 weeks. As such, I was being conservative with the values I through out. I'm glad to hear you are happy with the card.

Not even close. No apologies necessary. Markets are markets. I may overvalue or undervalue something relaive to someone else. Made me laugh because I have almost paid 2x for that card in a low grade so I thought 1/2 way for an A was a compromise.

No apology necessary. Its fun to see qualitative value change from person to person and manifest itself quantitatively.

[wondo]

Originally Posted by Tennis13

Imagine how stupid I felt when someone said that A was $50 - $100 then thinking "i wonder where he found another one" and then realizing I am "public."

I wanted the card. I bought the card. And it's sitting at my desk at work, even if apparently I overpaid for it. You know as well as I do that there wasn't alot of those Tinker/Evers/chance T202's there, so I bought it.
some dude thinks I paid too mich, and you call me "public." Ha

The Tinker/Evers/Chance is arguably the most popular card in the set - more liquid than the Cobbs. You did not overpay by any stretch - great looking card. I would have been glad to bring it home with me, but was glad it went to a Cubs fan, it's not a card I collect, the comment of $50-$100 was laughable - I'd pay $200 wholesale all day. It''s not of matter if I like it or not; that's the market. I think "Public" is a cool nickname.

[hangman62]

I blame society , also global warming is a factor

[Tennis13]

Originally Posted by wondo

The Tinker/Evers/Chance is arguably the most popular card in the set - more liquid than the Cobbs. You did not overpay by any stretch - great looking card. I would have been glad to bring it home with me, but was glad it went to a Cubs fan, it's not a card I collect, the comment of $50-$100 was laughable - I'd pay $200 wholesale all day. It''s not of matter if I like it or not; that's the market. I think "Public" is a cool nickname.

I dont plan on selling it even during my lifetime to overpay underpay is sort of irrelevant at that price. as long as I can still feed my kid. I was giving you all a hard time. I wasnt even remotely bothered--more educated by relative and perceived value.

[PiratesWS1979]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I got an E104 blank back Eddie Collins in about good condition for $25, which I traded away.

Brian (of course this was in the year 2000, in a galaxy far, far away from today's National collecting scene).

Was this yours?

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

Was this yours?

No picture on your post...I wonder if I would be able to recognize it (it has been 17 years)

Brian

[Snapolit1]

Someone threw out there a package of cards they think they got a good deal on. Someone chimed in with a comment implying he didn't think it was a great buy at all. I didn't think it was egregious or dickish at all. You throw out "here's a good deal I got" and you are fair game for comments pro or con. That's how the Internet works. If you don't want to be in the mix don't post. This is all about an exchange or ideas and opinions, not a self esteem building class.

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Someone threw out there a package of cards they think they got a good deal on. Someone chimed in with a comment implying he didn't think it was a great buy at all. I didn't think it was egregious or dickish at all. You throw out "here's a good deal I got" and you are fair game for comments pro or con. That's how the Internet works. If you don't want to be in the mix don't post. This is all about an exchange or ideas and opinions, not a self esteem building class.

Funny thing is I don't think the member who posted the deal got offended. I don't think Bobby's comments were out of line. As a new member I learn a lot reading these threads and getting people's raw opinions whether they support the narrative of the post or not.

By the way Happy Birthday Bobby.

[jfkheat]

I bought a few cards at about VCP prices. I am happy with my pruchases. SMR is usually off by a good bit.
James

[Aaron Seefeldt]

Got a few good cards I'm happy with. And the prices, I'm happy with too.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Marchillo

Funny thing is I don't think the member who posted the deal got offended. I don't think Bobby's comments were out of line. As a new member I learn a lot reading these threads and getting people's raw opinions whether they support the narrative of the post or not.

By the way Happy Birthday Bobby.

Thanks Stephen. Another year older!! When I retire, Im going to make my way to a National one time. I would love to go to Atlantic City or Baltimore, as they as the closest to me. Once I do, all the 1933 Sport King cards graded SGC "A" are mine!!!

[iwantitiwinit]

Hey guys why don't we just forget this thread. I just wanted to start a good hearted thread where people could post some bargains. Some of you are ridiculous with your vitriolic comments, you can save them for someone else you ruined it. Leon what has happened to people?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Someone threw out there a package of cards they think they got a good deal on. Someone chimed in with a comment implying he didn't think it was a great buy at all. I didn't think it was egregious or dickish at all. You throw out "here's a good deal I got" and you are fair game for comments pro or con. That's how the Internet works. If you don't want to be in the mix don't post. This is all about an exchange or ideas and opinions, not a self esteem building class.

Agreed. People automatically assume that being too much is a negative thing and associate a negative context with it. I dont think paying too much is positive or negative. It is just a "thing". I think internet is too much. It's the only game in town though, and I have to have it so I pay it. So I let Spectrum charge me $60 a month with the threat of going up every year, until they reach a price I wont pay. You actually WANT people thinking things are too much walking around the show. If everyone thought everything was a super steal, then all the absolute bargains would be snapped up, and you would have nothing left but the OBSCENELY high stuff left behind. If I was at the dealers booth before Wondo, I would have thought to myself "Thats too much" and put them back,and Wondo could have snapped them up later. In a nutshell, stop assoicating pricing with emotions.

[Exhibitman]

Picked up an R309 Ruth premium for a very nice price. Made my day Thursday.

[buymycards]

I don't know about anyone else, but when I go to the National I am not looking for bargains. I am looking for items that fit my collection. There are some outrageous prices at the National, but many of the items that I was looking for were reasonable, especially when you compare the National prices to some of the eBay museum BIN's. I bought a nice Weil Baking card from Ed Hans. He had it marked at $100 and I bought it for $85. Now, I usually won't pay $85 for a D329, but this was a nice card and I wanted it for my collection. Once in a while on eBay I can get a graded Weil in this condition for $40 to $65, but most of the Weil's on eBay are $150 to $300. Most of them have been listed on eBay for several years, and the sellers are not willing to come down much on price. So, for me, I am very happy with the price.

Ed had 13 (I think), T213-2's, all reasonably priced. I already had all of them in my set, so I didn't buy any. Another dealer had 5 T213-2's, again all at good prices, but I had all 5. One dealer had 3 of them for $25 each, very low grade. I have all of them, but I regret not picking them up at that price. 707 had several, which were priced high, and again, I have all the ones that 707 had.

One dealer had a decent T213-2 Cobb for $950. I wish I had made him an offer for it, but I was going through a "cheap" moment so I moved on. It was a nice card for the grade and I thought it was a good price for a Cobb.

So, there were some good deals around, but it took a lot of searching to find them.

Rick