Battlefield0516 Auctions

[Jenx34]

Her name in the billing is Carolyn Battles. As I said, my first purchase of the '64 Yaz posed no problems. As I noted in my initial post, I noticed the feedback/negative threads AFTER I won the auctions last night. Since all was good with the Yaz, we'll see. If all goes well, I will report it as such and provide pics. Ditto if it does not.

Note: Photo with the blue background is the Ebay scan from Battlefield.

Originally Posted by irv

I just recently bumped up the thread nebboy posted above in hopes new to the hobby/site types see it.

I have never purchased anything from her (General consensus is it's a female) but I do watch/see occasionally, as I am searching for 52 Topps cards, some of her listings.
Her negative/neutral feedback is enough for me to stay far away!!

Like this one, I also watch to see if it comes back to her and gets relisted or if the buyer leaves negative feedback. Most times both happen!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUKE-SNIDER-...vip=true&rt=nc

[Jenx34]

Will provide scans when cards arrive.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

Her name in the billing is Carol Battles. As I said, my first purchase of the '64 Yaz posed no problems. As I noted in my initial post, I noticed the feedback/negative threads AFTER I won the auctions last night. Since all was good with the Yaz, we'll see. If all goes well, I will report it as such and provide pics. Ditto if it does not.

Note: Photo with the blue background is the Ebay scan from Battlefield.

JenX, imo, the card you purchased does not look like the card she posted.

Her card has definitely been cleaned up some, imo. Note the corners, especially the top right and also the dot in the border on the left side (Yaz's right shoulder) Is that something that is just on your scanner or is it on the actual card?
The borders also look whiter, cleaned up in her pic compared to your's.
What was her description of the card, or do you still have the for sale/auction link?

Surprisingly, however, I thought it may be worse, but, imo, your card didn't need a lot of doctoring. Based on what I have read and heard, most of her cards have been doctored/photoshopped quite extensively.

[ALR-bishop]

Will look forward to the 63 Bombers Best. The one you posted has the bat neatly nestled in the nether region ( common),but there is a version where it seems airbrushed out. Pretty scarce.

Good luck

[Jenx34]

I think it is the same card. I could see where it may have been touched up a bit, but keep in mind the card in her scan is in a soft sleeve where mine is not. I'm going to try and re-scan mine in a sleeve to see what difference that makes.

The most glaring spots to me are print defects in the red banner at the bottom. If you will look at the bottom of the A in Carl there is a dot/eye and also along the top of the red banner between the "i" and "of". Those aren't as evident on the ebay scan, but you can see blemishes there. I've attached a photo and a scan in a sleeve. My guess is looking closely, there was likely some doctoring however minor. I won't hesitate to return the cards I bought last night if I see the same or worse.

I do appreciate your input and additional sets of eyes. Here is the original listing. I always assume a card is at least a grade or two lower than is described.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARL-YASTRZE...vip=true&rt=nc

Originally Posted by irv

JenX, imo, the card you purchased does not look like the card she posted.

Her card has definitely been cleaned up some, imo. Note the corners, especially the top right and also the dot in the border on the left side (Yaz's right shoulder) Is that something that is just on your scanner or is it on the actual card?
The borders also look whiter, cleaned up in her pic compared to your's.
What was her description of the card, or do you still have the for sale/auction link?

Surprisingly, however, I thought it may be worse, but, imo, your card didn't need a lot of doctoring. Based on what I have read and heard, most of her cards have been doctored/photoshopped quite extensively.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

I think it is the same card. I could see where it may have been touched up a bit, but keep in mind the card in her scan is in a soft sleeve where mine is not. I'm going to try and re-scan mine in a sleeve to see what difference that makes.

The most glaring spots to me are print defects in the red banner at the bottom. If you will look at the bottom of the A in Carl there is a dot/eye and also along the top of the red banner between the "i" and "of". Those aren't as evident on the ebay scan, but you can see blemishes there. I've attached a photo and a scan in a sleeve. My guess is looking closely, there was likely some doctoring however minor. I won't hesitate to return the cards I bought last night if I see the same or worse.

I do appreciate your input and additional sets of eyes.

Your scan in the sleeve did clean it up some. You can barely notice that black spot/blemish in the border, but it is completely gone in her scan.

I didn't comment about those other spots as you can see them in both scans, albeit, her's are a little less noticeable.

I also believe it is the same card, but I guess there is a chance it isn't as I'm sure lots exist and of course shouldn't be too hard to find in that condition?

If it is, there is no doubt, imo, her's was cleaned up some. Either way, you didn't receive the same "looking" card as what she had for sale, and knowing her MO, one should not be surprised, no matter how little/subtle the changes, some changes were made.

[Jenx34]

I agree. At $8 I won't worry about it too much. But the cards coming from last night will offer good evidence as it's not just one card that can be explained away. Will update as soon as I have them. Thanks

Originally Posted by irv

Your scan in the sleeve did clean it up some. You can barely notice that black spot/blemish in the border, but it is completely gone in her scan.

I didn't comment about those other spots as you can see them in both scans, albeit, her's are a little less noticeable.

I also believe it is the same card, but I guess there is a chance it isn't as I'm sure lots exist and of course shouldn't be too hard to find in that condition?

If it is, there is no doubt, imo, her's was cleaned up some. Either way, you didn't receive the same "looking" card as what she had for sale, and knowing her MO, one should not be surprised, no matter how little/subtle the changes, some changes were made.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

I agree. At $8 I won't worry about it too much. But the cards coming from last night will offer good evidence as it's not just one card that can be explained away. Will update as soon as I have them. Thanks

I agree, and I am looking forward to seeing the scans of your new purchases.

Hopefully, for your sake, the changes, if any, are as subtle as they are in your Yas card.

Good luck.

[Jenx34]

Not sure the best way to do this so I am going to do one card at a time. First the '58 Mantle AS. I'm posting 4 pics... Battlefield auction scan (blue background), my scan (white background) and my photo (wood grain background) and one of the back. The photo was difficult because of lighting. The one I am posting looks brighter white than the scans, but it's not far off. I'd say there is some dulling of the white border, but it is pretty nice.

My thoughts: I can't see any issues with this card. It's a nice card and I don't see any signs of "photoshopping". The back is nice and nicely centered. I look forward to different sets of eyes looking to see if there is anything I missed.
Chris

Original auction listing description: This card is in wonderful condition! It is 100% authentic & unaltered! This card has no creases, 4 very strong corners, great centering, beautiful color, awesome eye appeal, and a beautiful clean back. There are no pinholes, markings, paper loss, or any damage of that kind.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...vip=true&rt=nc

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

I agree. At $8 I won't worry about it too much. But the cards coming from last night will offer good evidence as it's not just one card that can be explained away. Will update as soon as I have them. Thanks

This is what keeps her in business

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

This is what keeps her in business

I know, which makes me wonder if there is a legit law enforcement angle that can be pursued....

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

This is what keeps her in business

Yep, you get what you are willing to put up with.
In this hobby - that is quite a bit.